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Nagarjuna

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the man who pushed emptiness to its limit

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last episode we talked about

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how the Diamond Sutra is like a blade

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it shows you what to cut away

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but it never answers a deeper question

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why can everything be cut away

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and once you finish cutting

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what is left

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the man we are talking about today

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was not satisfied with just swinging the blade

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he wanted to prove by pure logic

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that nothing in this world is uncuttable

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his name was Nagarjuna

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hello

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everyone

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I am Leo Wang

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this series went from the Buddha to the Prajnaparamita sutras

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and then to the rise of the Diamond Sutra in China

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now

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we pull the timeline back to India

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the second to third century

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Buddhism was facing a deep intellectual crisis

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the arrival of Nagarjuna

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completely turned that crisis around

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today we only cover Nagarjuna the man and his era

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and the war of ideas he was standing in

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how he answered his opponents deadliest counterattack

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and the new problem that answer created

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we leave for next episode

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first look at India before he arrived

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in India around the second century

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the marketplace of ideas was far more brutal than you would think

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Buddhism was not the only player

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Brahmanism was reviving

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philosophers of the Upanishads used ever sharper logic to argue the unity of Brahman and Atman

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the Nyaya school was building a logical system made for debate

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and Jainism had a worldview of its own

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in this arena

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every school had to draw its sharpest weapon

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or be crushed by an opponents logic

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inside Buddhism things were not peaceful either

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we mentioned this when we covered the Sarvastivada

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after the Buddha passed away

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the sharpest minds in the sangha started doing one thing

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breaking his teachings down into the smallest parts

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just like physicists hunting for elementary particles

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they split the dharma into seventy five basic units of existence

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called dharmas

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this analytical system was astonishingly precise

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what is mind

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what is form

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what are the non associated formations

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each one had a definition boundaries and rules of operation

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think of it as a giant periodic table

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laying out not chemical elements

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but the basic ingredients of all experience

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this precision had a huge advantage

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facing rival schools

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it could hold up under logical attack

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you say Buddhism teaches emptiness so nothing exists

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here are seventy five dharmas

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each clearly defined

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try refuting them

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this system gave Buddhism powerful defenses in the contest of ideas

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but defense came at a price

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and hid a fatal flaw

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the Sarvastivada held

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that each of the seventy five dharmas has intrinsic nature

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intrinsic nature means

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an essence that stands alone and depends on nothing else

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where is the problem

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what the Buddha awakened to under the bodhi tree was dependent origination

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everything arises from causes and conditions coming together

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nothing exists on its own

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that is the foundation of the dharma

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but while analyzing the dharma

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the Sarvastivada gave its own tools an independent intrinsic nature

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they explained the world with the framework of dependent origination

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yet the bricks of that framework

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violated dependent origination itself

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it is like someone declaring nothing in this world is permanent

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then pulling out a stone tablet carved with that very sentence

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and saying this tablet is permanent

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by around the second century

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the contradiction had reached a breaking point

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and it was not just the Sarvastivada

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other schools had their own sicknesses

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some read emptiness as nothingness

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and simply gave up

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some turned the dharma into pure academic gymnastics

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the concepts got finer and finer

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while practice drifted further away

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Buddhism needed someone

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to clear out the foundation again

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that someone was Nagarjuna

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about Nagarjunas life

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we actually have very few hard facts

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he lived roughly from the mid second century to the early third

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mostly active in south India

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around what is now Andhra Pradesh

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scholars can pin this down

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because he wrote two letters

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the Letter to a Friend and the Precious Garland

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addressed to a king of the Satavahana dynasty in Andhra

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that is the hardest link between Nagarjuna and real history

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but you have probably heard far more dramatic legends

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they say he was brilliant as a young man

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he and three friends learned how to turn invisible

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and slipped into the palace to spy on the court women

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when they were caught his three friends were killed on the spot

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only he survived by pressing himself close behind the king

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the shock changed him

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he saw that desire is the root of suffering

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so he became a monk

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there is an even more famous story

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after he took the robes

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no scripture in the human world satisfied him

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so a dragon king took him down to the palace beneath the sea

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where the complete Mahayana Prajnaparamita sutras were hidden

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Nagarjuna took the scriptures

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and brought them back to the human world

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believe it or not

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it explains at least one thing

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why there is a dragon in his Chinese name

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but scholars warn us

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these legends come from biographies written centuries after his death

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they are not reliable history

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about his actual life

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we can confirm only three things

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he lived in south India in the second and third centuries

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he exchanged letters with a king

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he wrote works that shook the history of Buddhist thought

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everything else is legend

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what is interesting

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is how personal those two letters to the king sound

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in the Letter to a Friend he tells the king to drink less and hold his temper

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a Buddhist philosopher writing to one of the most powerful men alive

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not about affairs of state

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but nudging him like an old friend

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you have been drinking a bit much lately

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that detail tells you

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Nagarjuna was no pure theorist locked in a study

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he was deeply connected to the real world

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legends are rarely invented out of nothing

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usually they are stories later people use to explain a fact they cannot understand

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what is the fact about Nagarjuna

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one man using nothing but logic

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rebuilt the entire foundation of Buddhist philosophy

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later generations could not explain that explosion of intellect

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so they made up the dragon palace story meaning

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wisdom like this cannot belong to the human world

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it must have been brought back from somewhere beyond it

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so much for the legends

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now the real war of ideas he faced

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before him

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the Sarvastivada was one of the most influential Buddhist schools

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its Abhidharma system was precise and systematic

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the most mature analytical tool in the Buddhist world

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but what Nagarjuna saw was not precision

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it was a crack in the foundation

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the crack was intrinsic nature

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here is an analogy

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an architect designs a beautiful tower

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Nagarjuna walks over

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he crouches down and looks at the foundation

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the material in your foundation

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and the thing you claim to be guarding against

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the Sarvastivada said all things are dependently arisen impermanent and without self

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but the seventy five dharmas they used to analyze that

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were given intrinsic nature an independent unchanging essence

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saying nothing in this world is permanent

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while saying their own tools are permanent

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that does not add up

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that is exactly what Nagarjuna seized on

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his method was strikingly unusual

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he asserts nothing

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he does not say how the world is

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he does not say where truth lies

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and follows your own logic downward

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all the way to the end

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until the logic collapses by itself

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this is called reductio ad absurdum

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you do not need to remember the name

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just know that Nagarjuna does not build houses

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he only takes them apart

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and he does not use a hammer

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he proves your house is built out of contradiction

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so it falls on its own

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he takes the core concepts one by one and tests them

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take arising and ceasing

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the Sarvastivada says dharmas arise from causes and conditions

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why would it need to arise

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something that does not exist to begin with

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what is there to arise

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you say it arises from causes and conditions

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but if those conditions have intrinsic nature

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then they need no further conditions to produce them

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and that is no longer dependent origination

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if the conditions have no intrinsic nature

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then one thing without intrinsic nature produces another

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and every step is a dead end

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Nagarjuna ran the same analysis on all of them

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and the conclusion never changed

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give any concept intrinsic nature

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treat it as an essence that depends on nothing

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and it can no longer take part in dependent origination

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and whatever stands outside dependent origination

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is not anything the Buddha ever talked about

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this cut

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went straight to the bone of Buddhist philosophy

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and he did not stop at his own house

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he wrote the Refutation of Objections to answer his critics

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and the Broad Refutation aimed at the Nyaya school outside Buddhism

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Nyaya was the finest school of logic in India at the time

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with a fully formed theory of knowledge

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defining what counts as valid cognition and valid inference

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Nagarjuna walked in

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used their own rules

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and showed their foundation could not stand either

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imagine the shock across Indian thought

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one man taking on the largest school inside Buddhism

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and the strongest school of logic outside it

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never leaning on authority or scripture in debate

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only one rule

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what you yourself have said

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can it stand on its own

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but notice this

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Nagarjuna was not cutting the Buddhas teaching

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he was cutting the layer later people added on top of it

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while analyzing the dharma

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the Sarvastivada quietly gave the framework properties the Buddha never gave it

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what Nagarjuna did

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was scrape that layer off

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so the Buddhas original insight into dependent origination could show again

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so his position is not nihilism

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he is not saying nothing exists

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he is saying the independent intrinsic nature you think is there

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things still function

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cause and effect still hold

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it is just that the way they work

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but because they are a web of mutual dependence

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and no node can exist apart from that web

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that is emptiness

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emptiness is not nothingness

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it is the absence of intrinsic nature

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emptiness is another name for dependent origination

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every time I think about this

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I find it hard to believe

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a man living almost two thousand years ago

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with no training in modern logic

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by reasoning alone

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solved problems later philosophers spent centuries just getting close to

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Wittgenstein said

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the limits of my language are the limits of my world

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Derrida said

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meaning is always sliding through differance

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these are two of the greatest thinkers of the twentieth century

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and Nagarjuna beat them by seventeen hundred years

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he had already proved

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that any position built out of language

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cannot describe reality without contradicting itself

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but his method created a new problem

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if Nagarjuna asserts nothing

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and only demolishes other houses without building his own

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then where is he standing

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the blade of logic he uses to tear them down

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does it have intrinsic nature

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if it does

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then he violates dependent origination too

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if it does not

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how can a blade with no intrinsic nature tear anything down

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this question

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was thrown at him to his face

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and his answer

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is the most brilliant and most baffling part of Madhyamaka philosophy

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next episode

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we look at how Nagarjuna answered

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and how that answer created an even bigger problem

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one that forced the Yogacara school into existence a century or two later

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have you ever had a moment

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when you thought you stood on solid ground

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and someone followed your own logic down

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and you realized there was nothing under your feet

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share your story in the comments

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I am Leo Wang

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see you next episode