1 00:00:00,303 --> 00:00:02,036 色即是空的下半句 2 00:00:02,063 --> 00:00:03,956 才是佛法真正的秘密 3 00:00:04,463 --> 00:00:06,336 你有没有发现一件很奇怪的事 4 00:00:06,902 --> 00:00:09,115 很多人学佛学到色即是空 5 00:00:09,182 --> 00:00:11,555 然后就开始跟这个世界较劲了 6 00:00:11,743 --> 00:00:14,221 他们觉得既然一切都是空的 7 00:00:14,223 --> 00:00:15,582 那工作是空的 8 00:00:15,583 --> 00:00:16,742 赚钱是空的 9 00:00:16,742 --> 00:00:17,975 谈恋爱更是空的 10 00:00:18,182 --> 00:00:19,275 都该放下 11 00:00:19,542 --> 00:00:21,542 结果越学越消极 12 00:00:21,542 --> 00:00:24,115 越学越觉得这个世界碍手碍脚 13 00:00:24,263 --> 00:00:26,795 恨不得把所有现象都消灭掉 14 00:00:26,823 --> 00:00:29,356 去找一个纯粹的 绝对的空 15 00:00:30,084 --> 00:00:32,136 但你回去翻翻心经原文 16 00:00:32,323 --> 00:00:33,357 经里说的是什么 17 00:00:34,043 --> 00:00:34,756 色不异空 18 00:00:35,083 --> 00:00:36,177 空不异色 19 00:00:36,403 --> 00:00:37,116 色即是空 20 00:00:37,403 --> 00:00:38,497 空即是色 21 00:00:38,723 --> 00:00:39,076 你看 22 00:00:39,484 --> 00:00:42,097 上半句和下半句是对称的 23 00:00:42,284 --> 00:00:45,737 如果色即是空是说现象的本质是空性 24 00:00:45,844 --> 00:00:47,896 那空即是色就是在说 25 00:00:47,964 --> 00:00:50,056 空性的本质就是现象 26 00:00:50,164 --> 00:00:51,537 它们不是两个东西 27 00:00:52,123 --> 00:00:54,616 绝大多数人只消化了上半句 28 00:00:54,643 --> 00:00:56,857 然后就拿着半把钥匙去开门 29 00:00:57,003 --> 00:00:58,457 怎么开都开不了 30 00:00:58,763 --> 00:01:01,537 今天我想带你拿起另外半把 31 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:02,822 哈喽 32 00:01:03,069 --> 00:01:03,543 大家好 33 00:01:03,790 --> 00:01:04,803 我是王利杰 34 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:06,829 佛学里有一个概念 35 00:01:06,829 --> 00:01:11,323 精准地概括了色即是空和空即是色的完整含义 36 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:13,082 叫性相一如 37 00:01:13,409 --> 00:01:14,189 四个字 38 00:01:14,189 --> 00:01:18,562 但它可能是佛法三藏十二部里最核心的底层代码 39 00:01:18,949 --> 00:01:19,142 性 40 00:01:19,669 --> 00:01:21,103 指的是万法的本性 41 00:01:21,469 --> 00:01:22,722 也就是空性 42 00:01:23,070 --> 00:01:23,263 相 43 00:01:23,669 --> 00:01:25,722 指的是万法的表现形式 44 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:29,922 也就是你看到的 摸到的 想到的这个花花世界 45 00:01:30,309 --> 00:01:30,702 一如 46 00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:31,662 就是不二 47 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:33,162 就是同一个东西 48 00:01:33,630 --> 00:01:35,349 性相一如的意思是 49 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:38,362 本体和现象从来就不是两回事 50 00:01:38,669 --> 00:01:42,323 空性不是藏在现象背后的某个秘密房间 51 00:01:42,549 --> 00:01:44,722 空性就是现象本身 52 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:48,243 你不需要穿过现象去找到空性 53 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:50,802 你只需要在现象的当下看见它 54 00:01:51,586 --> 00:01:53,384 这四个字之所以重要 55 00:01:53,385 --> 00:01:57,559 是因为它精准地指出了修行人最容易掉进去的两个坑 56 00:01:58,066 --> 00:02:00,319 第一个坑叫执相昧性 57 00:02:00,625 --> 00:02:02,018 就是只看到现象 58 00:02:02,265 --> 00:02:03,438 看不到本质 59 00:02:03,666 --> 00:02:07,319 你看到钱就觉得钱是真实的 是永恒的 60 00:02:07,465 --> 00:02:08,598 拼了命去抓 61 00:02:08,825 --> 00:02:11,559 你看到地位就觉得地位是自己的 62 00:02:11,626 --> 00:02:12,959 死死不肯放手 63 00:02:13,265 --> 00:02:15,119 顺境来了欣喜若狂 64 00:02:15,186 --> 00:02:16,998 逆境来了痛不欲生 65 00:02:17,226 --> 00:02:19,839 你的心完全被现象牵着走 66 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:22,359 像一条被浪打来打去的小船 67 00:02:22,746 --> 00:02:25,858 这是绝大多数人的日常状态 68 00:02:26,245 --> 00:02:27,399 第二个坑更隐蔽 69 00:02:27,726 --> 00:02:29,459 叫拨相求性 70 00:02:29,765 --> 00:02:30,399 什么意思呢 71 00:02:30,846 --> 00:02:32,538 就是你学了佛法之后 72 00:02:32,606 --> 00:02:34,258 知道现象是空的了 73 00:02:34,406 --> 00:02:36,418 然后你就开始讨厌现象 74 00:02:36,645 --> 00:02:37,999 你觉得这个世界是障碍 75 00:02:38,365 --> 00:02:39,445 工作是障碍 76 00:02:39,446 --> 00:02:40,318 家庭是障碍 77 00:02:40,606 --> 00:02:41,739 情绪是障碍 78 00:02:42,085 --> 00:02:44,418 恨不得把所有的波浪都压平 79 00:02:44,566 --> 00:02:47,098 去寻找一片绝对平静的水面 80 00:02:47,726 --> 00:02:50,565 佛学有个专门的名词来形容这种错误 81 00:02:50,566 --> 00:02:51,739 叫恶取空 82 00:02:52,166 --> 00:02:54,098 你把空理解成了虚无 83 00:02:54,205 --> 00:02:56,658 然后拿着这个虚无来否定一切 84 00:02:57,006 --> 00:03:00,578 六祖慧能在坛经里就严厉批评过这种倾向 85 00:03:01,205 --> 00:03:03,339 他说如果你什么都不想 86 00:03:03,566 --> 00:03:05,779 强行把念头全部灭掉 87 00:03:05,925 --> 00:03:07,459 一念绝即死 88 00:03:07,726 --> 00:03:08,598 别处受生 89 00:03:09,006 --> 00:03:10,059 是为大错 90 00:03:10,485 --> 00:03:12,258 你以为你在追求自由 91 00:03:12,286 --> 00:03:14,996 其实你套上了另一副枷锁 92 00:03:15,223 --> 00:03:17,383 这两个坑看起来方向相反 93 00:03:17,383 --> 00:03:19,676 但本质上犯的是同一个错误 94 00:03:19,704 --> 00:03:22,597 就是把性和相当成了两个东西 95 00:03:22,823 --> 00:03:24,037 然后二选一 96 00:03:24,223 --> 00:03:25,377 第一种人选了相 97 00:03:25,663 --> 00:03:26,477 丢了性 98 00:03:26,744 --> 00:03:27,817 第二种人选了性 99 00:03:28,144 --> 00:03:28,996 丢了相 100 00:03:29,304 --> 00:03:30,616 而性相一如告诉你 101 00:03:30,823 --> 00:03:31,996 你不需要选 102 00:03:32,223 --> 00:03:34,236 因为它们从来就不是两个东西 103 00:03:34,623 --> 00:03:35,676 有意思的是 104 00:03:35,744 --> 00:03:38,863 现代物理学在完全不知道佛学的情况下 105 00:03:38,864 --> 00:03:40,547 撞上了同样的结论 106 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:42,107 二十世纪初 107 00:03:42,173 --> 00:03:44,707 物理学遇到了一个让所有人抓狂的问题 108 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:46,327 光到底是什么 109 00:03:46,973 --> 00:03:48,906 牛顿说光是粒子 110 00:03:49,253 --> 00:03:51,147 惠更斯说光是波 111 00:03:51,614 --> 00:03:53,267 两派吵了两百年 112 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:56,026 后来托马斯 杨做了双缝实验 113 00:03:56,054 --> 00:03:57,933 证明光有干涉现象 114 00:03:57,934 --> 00:03:59,267 那是波的特征 115 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:01,007 大家以为尘埃落定了 116 00:04:01,253 --> 00:04:02,186 光是波 117 00:04:02,534 --> 00:04:05,107 结果爱因斯坦又证明了光电效应 118 00:04:05,293 --> 00:04:07,812 光确确实实是一个一个的粒子 119 00:04:07,814 --> 00:04:11,227 一颗一颗打在金属上把电子弹出来 120 00:04:11,573 --> 00:04:13,406 光到底是波还是粒子 121 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:18,248 最终是玻尔给出了一个让所有人都不太舒服 122 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:19,968 但又不得不接受的答案 123 00:04:19,969 --> 00:04:21,463 叫互补性原理 124 00:04:22,089 --> 00:04:25,822 他说波和粒子不是光的两个不同面貌 125 00:04:25,969 --> 00:04:29,223 它们是同一个东西的两种描述方式 126 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:31,783 你用什么实验装置去看它 127 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:33,983 它就用什么方式呈现给你 128 00:04:34,290 --> 00:04:36,903 但它本身既不是纯粹的波 129 00:04:37,009 --> 00:04:38,622 也不是纯粹的粒子 130 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:40,742 它是不可分割的整体 131 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:42,283 你有没有听出来 132 00:04:42,889 --> 00:04:45,062 波和粒子不是两个东西 133 00:04:45,610 --> 00:04:48,403 这不就是性和相不是两个东西吗 134 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:51,942 量子场论把这个逻辑推得更深 135 00:04:52,249 --> 00:04:54,049 在量子场论的框架里 136 00:04:54,049 --> 00:04:55,888 宇宙的基础不是粒子 137 00:04:55,889 --> 00:04:56,703 而是场 138 00:04:57,009 --> 00:04:59,463 电磁场 引力场 希格斯场 139 00:04:59,569 --> 00:05:01,982 这些场弥漫在整个时空中 140 00:05:02,449 --> 00:05:03,403 那粒子是什么 141 00:05:03,689 --> 00:05:05,823 粒子只是场的局部激发 142 00:05:06,049 --> 00:05:07,122 就像大海是场 143 00:05:07,569 --> 00:05:09,023 浪花是粒子 144 00:05:09,210 --> 00:05:11,703 浪花不是独立于大海之外的东西 145 00:05:11,929 --> 00:05:16,901 浪花就是大海在那一刻 那一处的一种表现形式 146 00:05:17,207 --> 00:05:18,161 你去掉浪花 147 00:05:18,447 --> 00:05:19,500 大海还在 148 00:05:19,608 --> 00:05:20,560 但你去掉大海 149 00:05:20,767 --> 00:05:22,581 浪花根本不可能存在 150 00:05:22,728 --> 00:05:23,567 反过来 151 00:05:23,567 --> 00:05:27,300 没有任何扰动的大海在量子层面其实也不存在 152 00:05:27,447 --> 00:05:29,166 即使是所谓的真空 153 00:05:29,168 --> 00:05:30,860 也充满了量子涨落 154 00:05:30,928 --> 00:05:33,500 不断地有虚粒子在生生灭灭 155 00:05:33,647 --> 00:05:34,240 也就是说 156 00:05:34,608 --> 00:05:36,701 场必然会产生激发 157 00:05:36,767 --> 00:05:38,740 大海一定会起波浪 158 00:05:38,848 --> 00:05:40,940 性一定会显现为相 159 00:05:41,093 --> 00:05:41,848 你看 160 00:05:41,848 --> 00:05:46,380 物理学用数学方程写了一遍佛陀两千五百年前的直觉 161 00:05:46,647 --> 00:05:48,860 本体和现象不可分割 162 00:05:49,088 --> 00:05:51,060 场就是粒子的本性 163 00:05:51,088 --> 00:05:53,180 粒子就是场的显现 164 00:05:53,408 --> 00:05:55,060 性相一如 165 00:05:56,169 --> 00:05:58,582 而且这不只是物理学的发现 166 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:01,422 哲学也独立地撞上了同一面墙 167 00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:03,102 三百五十年前 168 00:06:03,210 --> 00:06:06,943 斯宾诺莎提出了一个在当时被视为异端的观点 169 00:06:07,130 --> 00:06:09,862 他说心灵和物质不是两种实体 170 00:06:09,929 --> 00:06:12,342 它们是同一个实体的两个属性 171 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:15,263 就像一枚硬币有正面和反面 172 00:06:15,369 --> 00:06:17,183 但它只是一枚硬币 173 00:06:17,489 --> 00:06:19,862 你可以从心灵的角度去描述它 174 00:06:19,929 --> 00:06:22,303 也可以从物质的角度去描述它 175 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:24,503 但你描述的是同一个东西 176 00:06:25,181 --> 00:06:28,995 这个思想在现代意识科学里被称为双面一元论 177 00:06:29,382 --> 00:06:32,955 它正在成为越来越多意识研究者的工作假设 178 00:06:33,168 --> 00:06:33,654 为什么 179 00:06:34,101 --> 00:06:38,075 因为意识研究领域最让人头疼的就是所谓的困难问题 180 00:06:38,501 --> 00:06:41,015 为什么物质的大脑会产生主观的体验 181 00:06:41,541 --> 00:06:44,075 神经元放电是客观的物理过程 182 00:06:44,142 --> 00:06:45,555 但你闻到咖啡香 183 00:06:45,582 --> 00:06:48,834 是一种无法被物理描述穷尽的主观感受 184 00:06:49,101 --> 00:06:53,029 物质和体验之间似乎隔着一道不可逾越的鸿沟 185 00:06:53,375 --> 00:06:55,849 但如果你用性相一如的框架来看呢 186 00:06:56,375 --> 00:06:59,308 也许物质和体验根本不是两个东西 187 00:06:59,736 --> 00:07:03,748 也许神经活动和主观体验的关系不是因果关系 188 00:07:03,776 --> 00:07:05,534 不是一个产生另一个 189 00:07:05,536 --> 00:07:08,428 而是同一个事件的两种描述方式 190 00:07:08,695 --> 00:07:11,308 就像波和粒子不是因果关系 191 00:07:11,336 --> 00:07:15,349 它们是同一个东西被不同方式看出来的两种面貌 192 00:07:15,695 --> 00:07:17,589 物理过程就是体验 193 00:07:17,656 --> 00:07:19,428 体验就是物理过程 194 00:07:19,896 --> 00:07:21,068 性相一如 195 00:07:21,536 --> 00:07:23,349 三条完全独立的路径 196 00:07:23,416 --> 00:07:25,748 佛学 物理学 哲学 197 00:07:25,815 --> 00:07:27,829 在同一个结论上会师了 198 00:07:27,976 --> 00:07:29,749 这不太可能是巧合 199 00:07:30,057 --> 00:07:30,249 好 200 00:07:30,376 --> 00:07:31,389 回到实践 201 00:07:31,696 --> 00:07:33,350 理解了性相一如 202 00:07:33,376 --> 00:07:35,090 你的生活会发生什么变化 203 00:07:35,542 --> 00:07:36,336 第一 204 00:07:36,336 --> 00:07:39,309 你不再需要逃离世界去寻找觉悟 205 00:07:39,456 --> 00:07:41,150 这个世界的每一个现象 206 00:07:41,177 --> 00:07:42,615 每一次起心动念 207 00:07:42,617 --> 00:07:44,776 每一个情绪的升起和消散 208 00:07:44,776 --> 00:07:46,910 本身就是空性在展示自己 209 00:07:47,216 --> 00:07:49,829 你不需要消灭波浪去寻找水 210 00:07:49,977 --> 00:07:51,790 波浪的当体就是水 211 00:07:51,977 --> 00:07:53,489 你在挑水砍柴的时候 212 00:07:53,816 --> 00:07:55,350 空性没有缺席 213 00:07:55,497 --> 00:07:56,809 你在管理公司的时候 214 00:07:57,136 --> 00:07:58,710 空性没有缺席 215 00:07:58,776 --> 00:07:59,730 你在生气的时候 216 00:08:00,057 --> 00:08:01,910 空性也没有缺席 217 00:08:02,177 --> 00:08:04,256 空性从来没有离开过你 218 00:08:04,256 --> 00:08:07,670 因为空性不是一个在远方等你的目的地 219 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:10,260 它是你此刻脚下的地面 220 00:08:10,527 --> 00:08:10,840 第二 221 00:08:11,208 --> 00:08:13,421 你也不再需要抓住世界不放 222 00:08:13,768 --> 00:08:16,421 因为你知道所有的浪花都会落下 223 00:08:16,727 --> 00:08:17,921 钱会来也会走 224 00:08:18,368 --> 00:08:20,020 地位会升也会降 225 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,861 关系会聚也会散 226 00:08:22,167 --> 00:08:23,121 但浪花落了 227 00:08:23,368 --> 00:08:24,361 水少了一分吗 228 00:08:24,773 --> 00:08:25,573 没有 229 00:08:25,727 --> 00:08:27,780 你的生命中会失去很多东西 230 00:08:28,047 --> 00:08:29,540 但从水的角度看 231 00:08:29,568 --> 00:08:31,580 你从来没有失去过任何东西 232 00:08:32,673 --> 00:08:33,887 这就是中道 233 00:08:34,113 --> 00:08:35,027 不执着于相 234 00:08:35,354 --> 00:08:36,567 也不否定相 235 00:08:36,753 --> 00:08:38,726 不沉迷于浪花的形状 236 00:08:38,874 --> 00:08:40,967 也不妄图消灭浪花 237 00:08:41,193 --> 00:08:44,246 在浪花翻涌的当下认出它是水 238 00:08:44,274 --> 00:08:46,737 然后你可以尽情地冲浪 239 00:08:47,003 --> 00:08:47,857 举个例子 240 00:08:48,204 --> 00:08:49,516 你创业做一家公司 241 00:08:49,843 --> 00:08:50,762 全力以赴 242 00:08:50,763 --> 00:08:51,816 拼尽一切 243 00:08:52,243 --> 00:08:52,757 这是相 244 00:08:53,284 --> 00:08:54,536 是你该做的事 245 00:08:54,964 --> 00:08:56,257 但你同时知道 246 00:08:56,284 --> 00:08:58,816 这家公司是因缘和合的产物 247 00:08:58,883 --> 00:09:00,896 它可能成功也可能失败 248 00:09:01,243 --> 00:09:03,617 成功了不代表你的价值增加了 249 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:06,337 失败了也不代表你的价值减少了 250 00:09:06,444 --> 00:09:07,516 因为你不是浪花 251 00:09:07,763 --> 00:09:08,576 你是水 252 00:09:08,924 --> 00:09:11,566 浪花的起落不改变水的本质 253 00:09:11,793 --> 00:09:13,147 这种心态不是冷漠 254 00:09:13,434 --> 00:09:14,566 不是不在乎 255 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:15,546 恰恰相反 256 00:09:15,954 --> 00:09:17,392 正因为你不怕输 257 00:09:17,393 --> 00:09:19,846 你才能真正放开手脚去做事 258 00:09:20,114 --> 00:09:20,627 不住相 259 00:09:20,954 --> 00:09:22,457 反而让你做事更猛 260 00:09:22,603 --> 00:09:25,936 金刚经里有一句话把这件事说得极其透彻 261 00:09:26,404 --> 00:09:26,957 佛陀说 262 00:09:27,363 --> 00:09:29,497 应无所住而生其心 263 00:09:29,843 --> 00:09:31,776 无所住就是不执着 264 00:09:31,883 --> 00:09:33,936 但佛陀没有说不生心 265 00:09:34,204 --> 00:09:36,257 他说的是生其心 266 00:09:36,603 --> 00:09:37,676 你照样要有心 267 00:09:38,044 --> 00:09:39,242 照样要发愿 268 00:09:39,243 --> 00:09:40,117 照样要做事 269 00:09:40,404 --> 00:09:41,617 照样要爱人 270 00:09:41,843 --> 00:09:44,712 只是你的心不住在任何地方 271 00:09:44,978 --> 00:09:45,611 这像什么 272 00:09:46,139 --> 00:09:48,391 像量子场论里的真空态 273 00:09:48,739 --> 00:09:50,552 真空不是什么都没有 274 00:09:50,578 --> 00:09:53,192 真空里充满了场的零点能量 275 00:09:53,338 --> 00:09:55,271 随时可以激发出粒子 276 00:09:55,338 --> 00:09:57,151 随时可以产生现象 277 00:09:57,338 --> 00:10:00,631 但真空本身不执着于任何一个粒子 278 00:10:00,779 --> 00:10:01,531 粒子来了 279 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:03,111 真空不拒绝 280 00:10:03,338 --> 00:10:04,131 粒子走了 281 00:10:04,458 --> 00:10:05,912 真空也不挽留 282 00:10:06,218 --> 00:10:10,179 真空的状态就是无所住而生其心 283 00:10:10,646 --> 00:10:11,525 说到这里 284 00:10:11,526 --> 00:10:15,738 我想回应一个很多观众在评论区反复提到的困惑 285 00:10:16,085 --> 00:10:16,898 有人说 286 00:10:17,006 --> 00:10:19,939 我理解了空性之后反而更焦虑了 287 00:10:20,046 --> 00:10:23,299 以前我至少有一个坚实的自我可以依靠 288 00:10:23,366 --> 00:10:25,618 现在连自我都是空的了 289 00:10:25,685 --> 00:10:27,738 我感觉脚下没有任何支撑 290 00:10:27,805 --> 00:10:29,459 整个人悬在半空中 291 00:10:30,085 --> 00:10:30,799 这种感觉 292 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:33,378 佛学里其实早就预见到了 293 00:10:33,725 --> 00:10:36,258 它恰恰就是拨相求性的症状 294 00:10:36,605 --> 00:10:38,724 你把性和相切开了 295 00:10:38,725 --> 00:10:40,419 然后站在性这一边 296 00:10:40,565 --> 00:10:43,138 恐惧地望着你刚刚抛弃的世界 297 00:10:43,325 --> 00:10:46,147 你觉得孤独 虚无 没有着落 298 00:10:46,614 --> 00:10:47,507 但你注意 299 00:10:47,573 --> 00:10:48,812 你之所以恐惧 300 00:10:48,813 --> 00:10:51,346 是因为你在心里偷偷预设了一个立场 301 00:10:51,693 --> 00:10:53,706 你觉得空就是什么都没有 302 00:10:53,813 --> 00:10:56,027 你觉得无我就是我消失了 303 00:10:56,214 --> 00:10:56,807 这不是空 304 00:10:57,134 --> 00:10:58,427 这是断灭见 305 00:10:58,933 --> 00:11:02,857 龙树菩萨用一整部中论来反驳的就是这种理解 306 00:11:03,364 --> 00:11:06,056 性相一如告诉你的恰恰相反 307 00:11:06,283 --> 00:11:07,397 空不是没有 308 00:11:07,724 --> 00:11:09,336 空是一切的基底 309 00:11:09,564 --> 00:11:12,456 就像量子真空不是死寂的虚无 310 00:11:12,484 --> 00:11:14,897 而是充满涌动可能性的海洋 311 00:11:15,444 --> 00:11:17,056 你的自我没有消失 312 00:11:17,084 --> 00:11:18,777 你的自我一直在这里 313 00:11:18,804 --> 00:11:21,498 它只是从实心的变成了缘起的 314 00:11:21,523 --> 00:11:25,498 从一块固定不变的石头变成了一条不断流动的河 315 00:11:26,084 --> 00:11:26,956 河消失了吗 316 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:28,210 没有 317 00:11:28,444 --> 00:11:30,537 河只是换了一种存在方式 318 00:11:30,804 --> 00:11:33,975 而这种存在方式比石头自由得多 319 00:11:34,522 --> 00:11:35,514 石头不能变形 320 00:11:35,721 --> 00:11:36,640 不能转向 321 00:11:36,642 --> 00:11:37,935 不能适应环境 322 00:11:38,241 --> 00:11:39,174 河可以 323 00:11:39,442 --> 00:11:41,374 河遇到山就绕过去 324 00:11:41,402 --> 00:11:43,215 遇到低洼就填满它 325 00:11:43,321 --> 00:11:45,174 遇到悬崖就变成瀑布 326 00:11:45,721 --> 00:11:48,014 修行不是把自己变成石头 327 00:11:48,162 --> 00:11:50,564 修行是把自己变成水 328 00:11:50,952 --> 00:11:53,924 所以下次当你感到空性恐慌的时候 329 00:11:53,952 --> 00:11:55,125 试着做一件事 330 00:11:55,471 --> 00:11:57,605 不要去想空是什么意思 331 00:11:58,192 --> 00:11:58,745 停下来 332 00:11:59,192 --> 00:12:00,965 看看你眼前的这个世界 333 00:12:01,351 --> 00:12:02,225 桌上的杯子 334 00:12:02,591 --> 00:12:03,644 窗外的树 335 00:12:03,711 --> 00:12:05,044 你此刻的呼吸 336 00:12:05,432 --> 00:12:06,705 这些东西真实吗 337 00:12:07,418 --> 00:12:08,217 真实 338 00:12:08,552 --> 00:12:09,705 你能体验它们吗 339 00:12:10,118 --> 00:12:10,918 能 340 00:12:11,312 --> 00:12:15,384 它们同时也是缘起的 无常的 没有独立自性的吗 341 00:12:15,998 --> 00:12:16,742 是的 342 00:12:16,896 --> 00:12:17,810 你发现了没有 343 00:12:18,455 --> 00:12:21,948 你不需要在真实和空之间做选择 344 00:12:22,376 --> 00:12:23,988 它们同时成立 345 00:12:24,376 --> 00:12:27,070 杯子既是真实的又是空的 346 00:12:27,376 --> 00:12:30,868 你既在这里又没有一个固定不变的你 347 00:12:31,455 --> 00:12:33,430 这两个描述不矛盾 348 00:12:33,856 --> 00:12:36,530 就像光既是波又是粒子 349 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:38,035 不矛盾 350 00:12:38,462 --> 00:12:41,434 当你在体验层面真正感受到这一点的时候 351 00:12:41,702 --> 00:12:43,555 你会发现一件奇怪的事 352 00:12:43,982 --> 00:12:45,515 恐惧消失了 353 00:12:45,982 --> 00:12:47,675 不是因为你找到了答案 354 00:12:47,742 --> 00:12:50,915 而是因为你发现那个问题本身是假的 355 00:12:51,421 --> 00:12:54,954 你一直以为你必须在有和无之间做选择 356 00:12:55,181 --> 00:12:57,594 结果你发现根本不需要选 357 00:12:58,141 --> 00:13:00,155 这就是性相一如的力量 358 00:13:00,582 --> 00:13:01,454 它不解决问题 359 00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:03,395 它让问题消失 360 00:13:04,318 --> 00:13:06,971 但我想在最后留一个更大的问题 361 00:13:07,397 --> 00:13:10,170 如果物理学的场和粒子是一如的 362 00:13:10,237 --> 00:13:13,410 如果斯宾诺莎的心灵和物质是一如的 363 00:13:13,438 --> 00:13:16,410 如果佛陀的性和相是一如的 364 00:13:16,438 --> 00:13:19,270 那为什么我们的日常体验不是一如的 365 00:13:19,718 --> 00:13:22,991 为什么我们活在一个主体和客体分离的世界里 366 00:13:23,397 --> 00:13:25,371 为什么那个本来不二的东西 367 00:13:25,438 --> 00:13:28,030 在你我的意识中分裂成了内和外 368 00:13:28,318 --> 00:13:31,030 我和世界 观察者和被观察者 369 00:13:31,397 --> 00:13:33,070 这个分裂是怎么发生的 370 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:35,623 佛学叫它无明 371 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:37,822 物理学还没给出答案 372 00:13:38,129 --> 00:13:40,902 也许这才是宇宙最深的秘密 373 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:43,062 不是那个一长什么样 374 00:13:43,170 --> 00:13:45,503 而是它为什么非要裂成二 375 00:13:45,849 --> 00:13:46,483 你觉得呢 376 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:49,449 如果你在生活中曾经体验过 377 00:13:49,450 --> 00:13:52,582 那个性和相重新合一的瞬间 378 00:13:52,729 --> 00:13:54,275 我很想听你说说 379 00:13:54,582 --> 00:13:55,295 我是王利杰 380 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:56,675 我们下期见