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六祖坛经里藏着一句话

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比菩提本无树更狠

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你念过三千遍经

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虔诚得不得了

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然后一个人看了你一眼

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说了一句话

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你忽然发现

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自己三千遍全白念了

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不是经错了

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是你跟经的关系错了

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这种事

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坛经里真的发生过

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哈喽

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大家好

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我是王利杰

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上一期我们聊了六祖坛经的行由品

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讲的是慧能得法的故事和他悟道后说的五句何期自性

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今天我们继续往下走

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进入坛经真正硬核的部分

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今天我想回到那首所有人都知道的偈子

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但换一个方向切进去

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菩提本无树

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明镜亦非台

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本来无一物

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何处惹尘埃

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这首偈子太有名了

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名到什么程度呢

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很多人把它当成一句心灵鸡汤在用

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遇到烦心事了

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安慰自己说

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本来无一物嘛

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甚至有人拿这五个字当成什么都不在乎的理由

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可如果慧能想说的只是一切皆空 什么都没有

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那他后来几十年的教学在做什么

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他在教一群人去认识一个不存在的东西

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这显然说不通

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所以

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本来无一物到底在说什么

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要搞清楚这个问题

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我们得先看看它是在回应什么

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神秀写的那首偈子是这样的

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坛经原文记载

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身是菩提树

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心如明镜台

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时时勤拂拭

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勿使惹尘埃

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这首偈子有问题吗

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从修行角度看

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一点问题都没有

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它讲的是一个非常实在的修行功夫

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你的心像镜子

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灰尘会落上去

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你要勤快地擦

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这是每个认真修行的人都在做的事

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慧能的偈子把这个逻辑整个翻了过来

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不是说你不用擦

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而是问你一个更根本的问题

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你擦的那个东西

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它真的脏了吗

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这就是本来无一物真正的力量

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它指向的不是什么都没有

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而是没有一个固定不变的 需要被擦拭的心

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你可能也有过这种体验

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你有没有试过

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某一天你被一件事搞得特别焦虑

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你越想越焦虑

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越焦虑越想

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然后突然有人叫了你一声

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或者你闻到一股饭菜香

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那一瞬间你的注意力被拉走了

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你发现焦虑不见了

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不是你花了力气把焦虑推走的

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是它自己走的

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你回头想

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那股焦虑

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它有那么实在吗

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你那么认真地跟它搏斗了半天

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结果它连被你推走的资格都没有

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它自己就散了

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这就是慧能想说的

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灰尘不是一个你需要去处理的实体

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它是一个你误以为存在的固体

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你越认真地擦它

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就越在确认它是真实的

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擦的动作本身

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在加固灰尘的存在感

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用我们系列之前建立的框架来翻译

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灰尘就是遍计所执

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不是数据本身脏了

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是你给数据贴了一个叫做脏的标签

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标签不在数据上

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在你的解读系统里

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而且你贴完之后就忘了是自己贴的

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以为那是数据本来就有的属性

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所以你拼命想洗掉一个从来就不属于数据的东西

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但这里有一个非常微妙的陷阱

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很多人掉进去了

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如果你听完慧能的偈子

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得出的结论是什么都不用做

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那你可能比神秀还偏

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坛经后面的内容

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恰恰就在处理这个陷阱

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我给你讲坛经机缘品里一个非常精彩的公案

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有个和尚叫法达

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七岁就出家了

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一直在念法华经

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念了多少

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三千遍

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三千遍是什么概念

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法华经有将近七万字

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三千遍就是两亿多字

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这个人把自己整个青春都花在了念经上面

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法达来拜见慧能的时候

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行礼的时候头没有碰到地面

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慧能一看就说了一句

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坛经原文是这样的

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礼不投地

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何如不礼

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汝心中必有一物

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蕴习何事耶

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法达说

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我念法华经念了三千遍了

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你听到了吗

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慧能说了什么

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汝心中必有一物

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你心里面有一个东西

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什么东西

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就是那三千遍法华经

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法达把念经念了三千遍当成了一个成就

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这个成就变成了一个东西

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堆在他心里面

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他来见慧能

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是带着这个成就来的

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所以他的头不自觉地就没有碰到地面

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不是故意的

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是那个东西在作怪

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慧能接着对他说

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汝名法达

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何曾达法

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你名字叫法达

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可你什么时候达到过法

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你以为自己达到了

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因为你念了三千遍

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但三千遍是数量

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不是理解

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你诵的是声音

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不是经义

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然后慧能给法达讲了法华经的意思

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讲完之后说了一首偈

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心迷法华转

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心悟转法华

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你心迷的时候

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是法华经在转你

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你被经文牵着走

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你心悟的时候

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是你在转法华经

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经文成了你手里的工具

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这两个方向完全不一样

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同一部经

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你跟它的关系不同

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它就是两个东西

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法达听完之后哭了

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坛经里说

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达闻偈

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不觉悲泣

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言下大悟

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他说了一句话

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法达从昔已来

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实未曾转法华

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乃被法华转

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我从来没有在读法华经

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是法华经在读我

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我一直以为自己在修行

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其实我被修行绑架了

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法达大悟之后写了一首偈来赞叹

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其中有两句

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经诵三千部

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曹溪一句亡

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我念了三千遍经

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到了曹溪这里

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一句话

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全没了

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这个公案指向的核心问题是什么

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本来无一物

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法达心里那个东西

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那三千遍的功德 骄傲 成就感

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那个被他当成真实存在的东西

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是一物

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而慧能要做的

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就是让他看见

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那一物本来不在那里

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这就是公案的运作方式

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慧能不跟你讲道理

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他直接指给你看

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你心里多了什么

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你自己一看

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那个东西就碎了

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因为它从来就不是真实的东西

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它只是你自己堆出来的

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指一下

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它就没了

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坛经里还有一个公案跟本来无一物的关系更加直接

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有个僧人提到了一位叫卧轮的禅师

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说卧轮写了一首偈子

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坛经原文是这样的

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卧轮有伎俩

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能断百思想

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对境心不起

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菩提日日长

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听起来很厉害对不对

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我有本事

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能把一百种念头全部切断

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遇到任何场景

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我的心纹丝不动

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菩提一天天增长

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这不就是修行的最高境界吗

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慧能听了之后

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说这首偈没有明白心的本地

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如果照这个来修

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反而会被绑住

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然后慧能自己对了一首

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惠能没伎俩

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不断百思想

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对境心数起

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菩提作么长

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你仔细看这两首的对比

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卧轮说

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我有伎俩

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慧能说

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我没有伎俩

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卧轮说

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我能断百思想

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慧能说

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我不断百思想

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卧轮说

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对境心不起

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慧能说

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对境心数起

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卧轮说

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菩提日日长

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慧能说

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菩提作么长

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一句一句全反过来

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卧轮的路数是什么

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压制

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遇到念头

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压下去

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遇到感受

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按住

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遇到外境

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不动

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这跟神秀的时时勤拂拭是同一个思路

253
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它预设了一个前提

254
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念头是敌人

255
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必须消灭

256
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慧能的路数是什么

257
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不跟念头打仗

258
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念头来了就来了

259
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该起就起

260
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你不需要去断它

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因为它本来就不是一个需要你去断的东西

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它自己会来

263
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自己会走

264
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你要做的不是控制它

265
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而是不被它骗

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菩提作么长这五个字特别妙

267
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作么就是怎么的意思

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菩提怎么长

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它不长

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菩提不是一株你需要浇灌的植物

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它不是通过你断念头

272
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一天长一点 两天长两点

273
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这样积累起来的

274
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它一直就在那里

275
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不多也不少

276
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你的功夫不是让它长大

277
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你的功夫是不再往它上面堆东西

278
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这就是本来无一物在实操层面的意思

279
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不是什么都没有

280
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是你不需要往上面加任何东西

281
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包括那个叫做修行成果的东西

282
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包括那个叫做功德的东西

283
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包括那个叫做开悟了的东西

284
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这些全是一物

285
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只要你心里装着任何一样

286
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你就偏了

287
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你可能会问

288
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那到底该怎么做

289
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什么都不做吗

290
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不是

291
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坛经在定慧品里给了一个非常精确的操作指南

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慧能说

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我此法门

294
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从上以来

295
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先立无念为宗

296
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无相为体

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无住为本

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无念 无相 无住

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这三个词说的是同一件事的三个角度

300
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无念不是没有念头

301
00:10:03,719 --> 00:10:05,231
原文后面紧跟着一句

302
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于念而无念

303
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念头照样有

304
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但你不被念头绑架

305
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就像你走在街上

306
00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,439
周围有各种声音

307
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你听到了

308
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但你不会对每一个声音都停下来做出反应

309
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声音在那里

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你也在那里

311
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但你们之间没有粘连

312
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无相不是没有现象

313
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原文说的是于相而离相

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你看到一切

315
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但你不在任何一个现象上面停留并且抓紧

316
00:10:33,356 --> 00:10:35,327
就像水流过你的手指

317
00:10:35,356 --> 00:10:36,766
你感觉到了水的凉

318
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但水没有留在你手上

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无住

320
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这个可能是最关键的

321
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原文说得非常清楚

322
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于诸法上念念不住

323
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即无缚也

324
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此是以无住为本

325
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在一切事物上面

326
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你的心一念一念地不停留

327
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这就没有束缚了

328
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你注意到了吗

329
00:10:56,115 --> 00:10:58,407
三个词都不是在说否定

330
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都是在说一种关系

331
00:11:00,476 --> 00:11:01,707
你跟念头的关系

332
00:11:01,956 --> 00:11:03,514
你跟现象的关系

333
00:11:03,515 --> 00:11:05,486
你跟一切事物的关系

334
00:11:06,235 --> 00:11:09,006
本来无一物要解决的不是世界的问题

335
00:11:09,115 --> 00:11:11,917
是你跟世界之间那根绳子的问题

336
00:11:12,466 --> 00:11:14,478
我换一个角度来说这件事

337
00:11:14,787 --> 00:11:16,578
你有没有用过那种降噪耳机

338
00:11:17,147 --> 00:11:17,978
你戴上之后

339
00:11:18,346 --> 00:11:19,998
周围的噪音消失了

340
00:11:20,306 --> 00:11:22,037
你会觉得世界安静了

341
00:11:22,387 --> 00:11:23,057
但实际上

342
00:11:23,387 --> 00:11:24,705
噪音还在那里

343
00:11:24,706 --> 00:11:26,037
只是你听不到了

344
00:11:26,387 --> 00:11:27,677
这是卧轮的方式

345
00:11:27,987 --> 00:11:29,958
他用一个很强的技术手段

346
00:11:29,987 --> 00:11:32,517
让自己不再感知外界的干扰

347
00:11:32,946 --> 00:11:33,537
问题是

348
00:11:33,787 --> 00:11:34,697
你摘下耳机

349
00:11:34,946 --> 00:11:36,118
噪音又回来了

350
00:11:36,306 --> 00:11:38,037
你必须永远戴着它

351
00:11:38,627 --> 00:11:41,557
慧能的方式不是给你一副降噪耳机

352
00:11:41,907 --> 00:11:43,638
他的方式是让你发现

353
00:11:43,706 --> 00:11:45,397
噪音之所以烦你

354
00:11:45,426 --> 00:11:47,517
不是因为噪音本身有多吵

355
00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:52,037
而是因为你心里有一个声音在说这个噪音不该存在

356
00:11:52,787 --> 00:11:53,978
你对噪音的抗拒

357
00:11:54,227 --> 00:11:56,317
比噪音本身吵十倍

358
00:11:56,546 --> 00:11:57,777
当你不再抗拒它

359
00:11:58,027 --> 00:11:58,985
它还在那里

360
00:11:58,987 --> 00:12:00,306
但它不烦你了

361
00:12:00,306 --> 00:12:01,718
它变成了背景音

362
00:12:01,946 --> 00:12:02,858
这不是忍耐

363
00:12:03,107 --> 00:12:04,105
不是压制

364
00:12:04,107 --> 00:12:05,478
不是假装听不见

365
00:12:05,706 --> 00:12:08,797
而是你跟声音的关系发生了根本变化

366
00:12:08,907 --> 00:12:10,931
从对抗变成了共处

367
00:12:11,479 --> 00:12:14,171
这就是本来无一物真正的深意

368
00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,630
不是世界空了

369
00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,610
不是什么都没有了

370
00:12:17,999 --> 00:12:20,850
是你心里那个多余的东西消失了

371
00:12:21,239 --> 00:12:23,610
那个东西可能叫做我的成就

372
00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,370
可能叫做我的烦恼

373
00:12:25,599 --> 00:12:27,571
可能叫做我的修行进度

374
00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:28,870
不管它叫什么

375
00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,839
只要你心里装着它

376
00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,011
它就是一物

377
00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:33,671
而慧能告诉你

378
00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,959
这一物

379
00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,571
本来就不属于你

380
00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,571
你可能也有过这种感觉

381
00:12:38,999 --> 00:12:41,411
有时候你纠结一件事纠结了很久

382
00:12:41,599 --> 00:12:42,610
突然有一天

383
00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:43,470
不知道为什么

384
00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,850
你不纠结了

385
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,311
不是你想通了

386
00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,210
不是有人开导了你

387
00:12:48,359 --> 00:12:50,931
也不是事情本身发生了什么变化

388
00:12:51,599 --> 00:12:53,071
你就是突然发现

389
00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,250
那件事没那么重要

390
00:12:55,479 --> 00:12:56,811
你甚至会奇怪

391
00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,630
我之前为什么那么在意

392
00:12:59,239 --> 00:13:01,291
那个让你不再在意的瞬间

393
00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,210
就是你短暂地活在了本来无一物里

394
00:13:05,479 --> 00:13:05,950
那一刻

395
00:13:06,239 --> 00:13:08,897
你心里没有多余的东西

396
00:13:09,446 --> 00:13:09,998
问题是

397
00:13:10,206 --> 00:13:11,397
这种状态来得快

398
00:13:11,607 --> 00:13:12,537
走得也快

399
00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:15,177
很快你又会装进去新的东西

400
00:13:15,727 --> 00:13:16,397
新的担忧

401
00:13:16,767 --> 00:13:17,777
新的执念

402
00:13:18,007 --> 00:13:19,578
新的我应该怎样

403
00:13:20,206 --> 00:13:21,397
所以慧能才说

404
00:13:21,686 --> 00:13:22,738
无住为本

405
00:13:23,127 --> 00:13:25,766
不是让你去追求一种没有念头的状态

406
00:13:25,767 --> 00:13:27,017
那是卧轮的路

407
00:13:27,326 --> 00:13:30,137
而是让你在每一个念头上面不停留

408
00:13:30,487 --> 00:13:31,317
这一念来了

409
00:13:31,727 --> 00:13:32,277
看到了

410
00:13:32,527 --> 00:13:33,417
过去了

411
00:13:33,767 --> 00:13:34,637
下一念来了

412
00:13:34,926 --> 00:13:35,478
看到了

413
00:13:35,686 --> 00:13:36,537
过去了

414
00:13:36,806 --> 00:13:37,277
你不抓

415
00:13:37,686 --> 00:13:38,458
也不推

416
00:13:38,767 --> 00:13:40,549
你只是在那里

417
00:13:40,899 --> 00:13:43,669
这也解释了另一个很多人困惑的问题

418
00:13:44,058 --> 00:13:45,538
既然本来无一物

419
00:13:45,538 --> 00:13:47,850
那慧能为什么还要花几十年讲法

420
00:13:48,379 --> 00:13:51,309
因为无一物不等于无事可做

421
00:13:51,739 --> 00:13:53,789
它等于你做每一件事的时候

422
00:13:53,859 --> 00:13:55,029
心里不堆东西

423
00:13:55,538 --> 00:13:56,689
该讲法就讲法

424
00:13:56,979 --> 00:13:58,429
该吃饭就吃饭

425
00:13:58,499 --> 00:14:00,669
该面对质疑就面对质疑

426
00:14:00,859 --> 00:14:02,658
但你不在这些事情上面

427
00:14:02,659 --> 00:14:07,669
叠加一层叫做我正在做一件伟大的事情的自我评价

428
00:14:08,099 --> 00:14:08,850
事情做了

429
00:14:09,019 --> 00:14:09,817
做完了

430
00:14:09,818 --> 00:14:11,715
你心里不多也不少

431
00:14:12,183 --> 00:14:14,955
坛经里还有一个场景印证了这一点

432
00:14:15,383 --> 00:14:17,675
慧能到广州法性寺的时候

433
00:14:17,824 --> 00:14:19,475
有两个僧人在争论

434
00:14:19,864 --> 00:14:21,175
一个说是风在动

435
00:14:21,464 --> 00:14:22,994
一个说是幡在动

436
00:14:23,224 --> 00:14:24,915
慧能走过来说了一句

437
00:14:25,263 --> 00:14:26,014
不是风动

438
00:14:26,263 --> 00:14:27,014
不是幡动

439
00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:28,555
仁者心动

440
00:14:29,064 --> 00:14:30,134
风确实在吹

441
00:14:30,584 --> 00:14:31,874
幡确实在摆

442
00:14:32,224 --> 00:14:34,915
但你之所以在意到底是什么在动

443
00:14:35,064 --> 00:14:38,195
是因为你的心在那上面加了一层判断

444
00:14:38,624 --> 00:14:39,575
是你在分别

445
00:14:39,824 --> 00:14:40,822
在选边

446
00:14:40,824 --> 00:14:42,955
在认定某一个才是真的

447
00:14:43,263 --> 00:14:46,154
风和幡的动是依他起的事实

448
00:14:46,503 --> 00:14:48,075
但谁在动这个问题

449
00:14:48,224 --> 00:14:50,315
是你遍计所执的产物

450
00:14:50,704 --> 00:14:52,234
你心里多了一物

451
00:14:52,263 --> 00:14:55,589
就是那个一定要分出谁在动的执念

452
00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:57,950
这三个公案放在一起看

453
00:14:58,018 --> 00:15:01,150
你会发现坛经的教学方法非常一致

454
00:15:01,658 --> 00:15:04,710
法达的一物是三千遍经的功德感

455
00:15:05,059 --> 00:15:07,830
卧轮的一物是断念头的成就

456
00:15:08,219 --> 00:15:11,589
两个僧人的一物是分辨对错的执念

457
00:15:12,059 --> 00:15:13,290
慧能做的同一件事

458
00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:14,950
就是指给你看

459
00:15:15,018 --> 00:15:16,509
你心里多了什么

460
00:15:16,819 --> 00:15:18,989
他从来不说你应该怎样

461
00:15:19,378 --> 00:15:21,534
他只说你现在多了什么

462
00:15:22,002 --> 00:15:24,322
我们系列一直在讲的种子理论

463
00:15:24,323 --> 00:15:27,093
在这里可以提供一个很有意思的解释

464
00:15:27,602 --> 00:15:30,442
你的认知系统里存储着大量的种子

465
00:15:30,443 --> 00:15:32,493
也就是习惯性的反应模式

466
00:15:32,843 --> 00:15:34,534
法达念了三千遍经

467
00:15:34,602 --> 00:15:39,014
每一遍都在强化一颗叫做我在积累功德的种子

468
00:15:39,283 --> 00:15:40,921
这颗种子越来越重

469
00:15:40,923 --> 00:15:42,842
重到他弯腰行礼的时候

470
00:15:42,843 --> 00:15:44,493
脑袋都压不下去了

471
00:15:44,882 --> 00:15:47,134
慧能没有去改他的种子库

472
00:15:47,482 --> 00:15:49,973
慧能做的事情更简单也更狠

473
00:15:50,323 --> 00:15:52,733
他让法达看到了那颗种子

474
00:15:53,122 --> 00:15:53,713
看到了

475
00:15:54,002 --> 00:15:56,134
种子的权重就开始松动

476
00:15:56,522 --> 00:15:58,641
因为种子之所以有力量

477
00:15:58,642 --> 00:16:00,774
是因为你不知道它在那里

478
00:16:01,522 --> 00:16:03,573
你以为那是你自己的选择

479
00:16:03,602 --> 00:16:06,549
其实那是种子在替你做决定

480
00:16:07,058 --> 00:16:08,789
本来无一物这五个字

481
00:16:08,818 --> 00:16:10,909
翻译成种子理论的语言就是

482
00:16:11,018 --> 00:16:15,430
你的认知底层没有任何一颗种子是你必须保留的

483
00:16:15,739 --> 00:16:18,149
包括修行本身种下的种子

484
00:16:18,499 --> 00:16:21,149
包括开悟这两个字种下的种子

485
00:16:21,418 --> 00:16:23,629
没有任何一颗种子有资格

486
00:16:23,658 --> 00:16:26,269
在你的系统里获得永久居留权

487
00:16:26,859 --> 00:16:28,823
全部是过客

488
00:16:29,051 --> 00:16:32,703
这就是为什么慧能的偈子比神秀的偈子更深一层

489
00:16:33,012 --> 00:16:35,063
不是因为慧能否定了努力

490
00:16:35,171 --> 00:16:37,662
而是因为他看到了一个更根本的问题

491
00:16:38,051 --> 00:16:41,343
当你把擦镜子当成一件必须持续做的事

492
00:16:41,492 --> 00:16:44,262
擦这个动作本身就变成了一颗新种子

493
00:16:44,291 --> 00:16:45,823
它会在你心里扎根

494
00:16:45,852 --> 00:16:47,542
变成一种新的执着

495
00:16:47,732 --> 00:16:50,583
你从执着烦恼变成了执着修行

496
00:16:50,852 --> 00:16:53,223
换了一副更精致的枷锁而已

497
00:16:53,411 --> 00:16:54,882
慧能的本来无一物

498
00:16:55,212 --> 00:16:56,422
不是让你不修

499
00:16:56,691 --> 00:16:58,022
是让你修的时候

500
00:16:58,051 --> 00:17:00,771
不把修变成另一个一物

501
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,840
这个境界说起来简单

502
00:17:02,841 --> 00:17:04,172
五个字就说完了

503
00:17:04,361 --> 00:17:05,600
但真正做到它

504
00:17:05,601 --> 00:17:07,891
可能是所有修行里最难的一件事

505
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,212
因为你要放下的最后一样东西

506
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,267
是放下本身

507
00:17:12,576 --> 00:17:15,628
今天我们聊了坛经里三个非常精彩的公案

508
00:17:15,896 --> 00:17:19,148
法达念三千遍法华经却被法华经转

509
00:17:19,257 --> 00:17:22,507
卧轮用力断念头反而被功夫束缚

510
00:17:22,657 --> 00:17:26,587
两个僧人争论风动幡动却看不到自己心在动

511
00:17:26,816 --> 00:17:29,216
这三个故事说的是同一件事

512
00:17:29,217 --> 00:17:32,827
就是本来无一物不是一句否定一切的空话

513
00:17:32,856 --> 00:17:35,628
它是一种你跟所有事情相处的方式

514
00:17:35,697 --> 00:17:36,327
不堆积

515
00:17:36,616 --> 00:17:37,456
不停留

516
00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:40,449
不把任何东西变成你心里的常住户口

517
00:17:40,557 --> 00:17:41,729
你有没有某一刻

518
00:17:41,757 --> 00:17:44,129
突然发现自己一直执着的某样东西

519
00:17:44,357 --> 00:17:45,709
其实从来不属于你

520
00:17:46,238 --> 00:17:48,229
那个发现的瞬间是什么感觉

521
00:17:48,757 --> 00:17:50,348
是失落还是释然

522
00:17:50,918 --> 00:17:53,123
欢迎在评论区聊聊你的体验

523
00:17:53,686 --> 00:17:54,215
我是王利杰

524
00:17:54,435 --> 00:17:55,190
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