1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:01,639 妓女和暴君 2 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,339 凭什么被佛陀称为善知识 3 00:00:05,179 --> 00:00:05,859 善知识 4 00:00:06,179 --> 00:00:06,859 善男子 5 00:00:07,139 --> 00:00:08,079 善女人 6 00:00:08,259 --> 00:00:10,118 你念了一辈子的善字 7 00:00:10,300 --> 00:00:12,359 佛陀根本不是那个意思 8 00:00:13,099 --> 00:00:14,099 两千五百年前 9 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,079 一个十几岁的少年 10 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:18,158 跑遍印度去找老师 11 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:20,338 他见的第一类人叫比丘 12 00:00:20,780 --> 00:00:21,759 你不奇怪 13 00:00:22,219 --> 00:00:24,239 但五十三位善知识里 14 00:00:24,339 --> 00:00:27,199 有一位是全城最有名的妓女 15 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:28,178 还有一位 16 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,118 是让犯人剁手剁脚的国王 17 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:32,598 这两个人 18 00:00:32,619 --> 00:00:36,279 在华严经里都被尊称为善知识 19 00:00:36,499 --> 00:00:37,879 我赌你愣了一下 20 00:00:38,249 --> 00:00:38,699 妓女 21 00:00:39,428 --> 00:00:39,898 暴君 22 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:42,298 这俩怎么也能跟善沾边 23 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:44,999 这不是华严经写错了 24 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:47,438 这是我们把善这个字 25 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:49,199 理解错了两千年 26 00:00:49,843 --> 00:00:50,163 哈喽 27 00:00:50,443 --> 00:00:50,882 大家好 28 00:00:51,123 --> 00:00:52,102 我是王利杰 29 00:00:52,364 --> 00:00:53,083 我们中国人 30 00:00:53,244 --> 00:00:54,083 从小到大 31 00:00:54,083 --> 00:00:55,583 听到善这个字 32 00:00:55,724 --> 00:00:58,202 脑子里自动浮现出来的画面是什么 33 00:00:58,684 --> 00:01:00,742 是善有善报恶有恶报 34 00:01:00,843 --> 00:01:02,663 是举头三尺有神明 35 00:01:02,684 --> 00:01:04,183 是做人要善良 36 00:01:04,523 --> 00:01:06,522 善在我们的文化语境里 37 00:01:06,524 --> 00:01:09,022 几乎已经被等同于做好事 38 00:01:09,244 --> 00:01:10,223 一个善人 39 00:01:10,244 --> 00:01:12,622 就是一个不偷不抢 乐于助人 40 00:01:12,643 --> 00:01:13,982 心地柔软的人 41 00:01:14,244 --> 00:01:15,083 一件善事 42 00:01:15,324 --> 00:01:17,203 就是一件能让大家点赞 43 00:01:17,203 --> 00:01:18,622 不会有人骂的事 44 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:22,050 所以当佛经里反复出现 45 00:01:22,110 --> 00:01:24,690 善男子善女人这样的称呼 46 00:01:24,750 --> 00:01:28,969 你的大脑会自动翻译成心地善良的男人和女人 47 00:01:29,311 --> 00:01:32,130 当你听到善知识这个词 48 00:01:32,231 --> 00:01:34,809 你会想象成一位心地善良 49 00:01:34,871 --> 00:01:36,609 品行高尚的老师 50 00:01:36,910 --> 00:01:38,669 当你读到诸恶莫作 51 00:01:38,951 --> 00:01:40,210 众善奉行 52 00:01:40,311 --> 00:01:42,309 你会理解成不要做坏事 53 00:01:42,591 --> 00:01:43,729 多做好事 54 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:44,949 听起来都对吧 55 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:47,770 多么标准的佛教徒画像 56 00:01:48,151 --> 00:01:49,430 但我今天要告诉你 57 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:50,850 这套理解 58 00:01:50,871 --> 00:01:52,529 从根上就错了 59 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:53,796 错得离谱 60 00:01:54,177 --> 00:01:55,755 我们先回到那个少年 61 00:01:55,977 --> 00:01:56,695 他叫善财 62 00:01:57,097 --> 00:01:58,775 是华严经最后一品 63 00:01:58,776 --> 00:01:59,576 入法界品 64 00:01:59,776 --> 00:02:00,596 的主角 65 00:02:00,977 --> 00:02:02,915 他从文殊菩萨那里出发 66 00:02:02,936 --> 00:02:04,936 被告知要南行参访 67 00:02:04,936 --> 00:02:06,915 去拜见各路善知识 68 00:02:07,097 --> 00:02:08,755 整整五十三位老师 69 00:02:08,897 --> 00:02:10,636 经文里几乎每一参 70 00:02:10,656 --> 00:02:13,036 都用善知识来称呼对方 71 00:02:13,417 --> 00:02:16,236 如果善知识是心地善良的老师 72 00:02:16,256 --> 00:02:19,256 那这五十三位应该都是慈眉善目 73 00:02:19,256 --> 00:02:21,275 戒律精严的修行人 74 00:02:21,457 --> 00:02:22,456 但事实是什么 75 00:02:23,069 --> 00:02:26,808 善财来到一座叫险难国宝庄严城的地方 76 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:29,209 他要找的人叫婆须蜜多 77 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:30,989 这位婆须蜜多是谁 78 00:02:31,629 --> 00:02:33,329 经文里写得非常直白 79 00:02:33,390 --> 00:02:35,169 她是一位绝色女子 80 00:02:35,229 --> 00:02:38,088 她的房子建在城市最热闹的地段 81 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:41,288 任何男人见到她都会生起强烈的欲望 82 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:42,429 她的工作 83 00:02:42,430 --> 00:02:44,609 经文没有用任何隐晦的措辞 84 00:02:44,629 --> 00:02:48,169 就是接待这些被欲望驱使来到她门前的男人 85 00:02:48,310 --> 00:02:49,269 用今天的话说 86 00:02:49,550 --> 00:02:51,366 她是一个高级妓女 87 00:02:51,548 --> 00:02:52,646 善财去了 88 00:02:52,987 --> 00:02:55,206 一个十几岁的少年修行人 89 00:02:55,228 --> 00:02:56,426 去拜访一位妓女 90 00:02:56,427 --> 00:02:58,986 这件事在两千五百年前的印度 91 00:02:58,987 --> 00:03:01,567 跟今天一样会引起巨大的争议 92 00:03:02,068 --> 00:03:03,706 但善财不仅去了 93 00:03:03,707 --> 00:03:05,967 而且经文写他到了门前 94 00:03:06,027 --> 00:03:08,526 恭敬合掌 以头面礼足 95 00:03:08,587 --> 00:03:10,743 五体投地地拜下去 96 00:03:11,045 --> 00:03:13,083 婆须蜜多教了善财什么 97 00:03:13,684 --> 00:03:14,703 她说了一段 98 00:03:14,765 --> 00:03:17,983 在我看来是整个华严经里最颠覆的话 99 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:18,724 她说 100 00:03:19,124 --> 00:03:21,263 众生因为欲望来找我 101 00:03:21,364 --> 00:03:22,884 但与我接触之后 102 00:03:22,885 --> 00:03:25,224 他们的欲望反而被转化了 103 00:03:25,605 --> 00:03:28,624 有的人见到我就证得欢喜三昧 104 00:03:28,844 --> 00:03:32,504 有的人跟我说话就证得无碍音声三昧 105 00:03:32,765 --> 00:03:37,064 有的人执我手就证得遍往一切佛刹三昧 106 00:03:37,324 --> 00:03:38,124 有的人 107 00:03:38,124 --> 00:03:42,743 跟我亲吻就证得增长一切众生福德藏三昧 108 00:03:43,284 --> 00:03:44,803 经文就是这么写的 109 00:03:44,964 --> 00:03:46,143 我没有删字 110 00:03:46,765 --> 00:03:48,483 她的法门有一个名字 111 00:03:48,804 --> 00:03:50,183 叫离贪际 112 00:03:50,564 --> 00:03:52,224 在欲望的最深处 113 00:03:52,284 --> 00:03:55,311 触碰到那个超越欲望的边界 114 00:03:55,732 --> 00:03:58,210 你先把你心里那个佛教是纯洁的 115 00:03:58,211 --> 00:04:00,430 出家人是禁欲的剧本放一放 116 00:04:00,611 --> 00:04:02,610 华严经在这里告诉你的 117 00:04:02,611 --> 00:04:04,550 是一件石破天惊的事 118 00:04:04,651 --> 00:04:06,651 一位每天接待大量男人 119 00:04:06,651 --> 00:04:08,730 靠激发欲望为生的女子 120 00:04:08,732 --> 00:04:11,191 被列为善财童子的善知识 121 00:04:11,371 --> 00:04:11,930 她的善 122 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:13,531 不在于她的职业 123 00:04:13,532 --> 00:04:15,050 也不在于她的行为 124 00:04:15,051 --> 00:04:16,911 而在于她做的这件事 125 00:04:17,051 --> 00:04:18,791 本身就是一道法门 126 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:20,811 她让来到她身边的人 127 00:04:20,811 --> 00:04:23,551 在欲望被点燃到极致的那一刻 128 00:04:23,571 --> 00:04:26,591 有机会看见欲望本身的虚妄 129 00:04:26,812 --> 00:04:29,151 我换个说法你可能更有感觉 130 00:04:29,413 --> 00:04:31,531 一个一辈子没接触过钱的人 131 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:33,432 跟你说我不贪财 132 00:04:33,652 --> 00:04:34,692 这句话有分量吗 133 00:04:35,142 --> 00:04:35,942 没有 134 00:04:36,093 --> 00:04:37,832 一个手里握着十亿 135 00:04:37,892 --> 00:04:40,772 每天有无数人想从他这里挖钱的人 136 00:04:40,772 --> 00:04:42,291 跟你说我不贪财 137 00:04:42,812 --> 00:04:44,432 这句话才有分量 138 00:04:44,853 --> 00:04:48,192 婆须蜜多就是那个站在欲望最中心的人 139 00:04:48,293 --> 00:04:49,731 她每天面对的 140 00:04:49,733 --> 00:04:52,632 是常人一辈子都不会遇到的诱惑密度 141 00:04:52,853 --> 00:04:55,312 她在那个位置上保持了清明 142 00:04:55,533 --> 00:04:57,291 然后她的存在本身 143 00:04:57,613 --> 00:04:59,111 变成了一面镜子 144 00:04:59,173 --> 00:05:01,671 可以映照所有走近她的人 145 00:05:01,933 --> 00:05:02,731 这是不是善 146 00:05:03,452 --> 00:05:04,171 华严经说 147 00:05:04,572 --> 00:05:05,272 这是 148 00:05:05,493 --> 00:05:06,452 而且是大善 149 00:05:06,853 --> 00:05:08,632 是顶级的善知识 150 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:09,911 我们继续往下看 151 00:05:10,493 --> 00:05:12,392 善财来到了多罗幢城 152 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:14,031 要拜见一位国王 153 00:05:14,533 --> 00:05:16,551 这位国王叫无厌足王 154 00:05:16,892 --> 00:05:17,971 善财一到城里 155 00:05:18,332 --> 00:05:19,531 看到的是什么场景 156 00:05:20,132 --> 00:05:22,471 经文写得让人毛骨悚然 157 00:05:22,652 --> 00:05:25,632 王宫前的广场上摆着各种刑具 158 00:05:25,733 --> 00:05:28,351 被押解的犯人有的被割了耳鼻 159 00:05:28,452 --> 00:05:29,692 有的被砍掉手脚 160 00:05:30,053 --> 00:05:31,632 有的被开膛剖腹 161 00:05:31,692 --> 00:05:33,392 有的在油锅里挣扎 162 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:35,132 广场上血流成河 163 00:05:35,373 --> 00:05:36,591 哀嚎遍地 164 00:05:36,853 --> 00:05:39,711 这位无厌足王坐在高高的宝座上 165 00:05:39,812 --> 00:05:40,832 看着这一切 166 00:05:40,933 --> 00:05:41,812 神情冷酷 167 00:05:42,093 --> 00:05:43,527 发号施令 168 00:05:43,987 --> 00:05:45,886 善财当场就崩溃了 169 00:05:45,987 --> 00:05:47,647 经文写他心里产生了 170 00:05:47,647 --> 00:05:48,926 一个巨大的疑问 171 00:05:49,068 --> 00:05:50,746 这怎么可能是善知识 172 00:05:51,107 --> 00:05:52,467 这怎么可能是菩萨 173 00:05:52,868 --> 00:05:55,366 这分明是一个嗜血的暴君啊 174 00:05:55,587 --> 00:05:56,967 我修行求道 175 00:05:57,027 --> 00:05:59,746 文殊菩萨怎么会让我来拜见这种人 176 00:06:00,547 --> 00:06:02,366 就在善财动摇的时候 177 00:06:02,388 --> 00:06:03,946 空中传来一个声音 178 00:06:03,948 --> 00:06:06,046 是十方诸佛在提醒他 179 00:06:06,227 --> 00:06:06,787 善男子 180 00:06:07,068 --> 00:06:08,926 你不要起这样的念头 181 00:06:09,068 --> 00:06:10,227 你眼前看到的 182 00:06:10,388 --> 00:06:12,087 不是你以为的样子 183 00:06:12,188 --> 00:06:13,607 这位无厌足王 184 00:06:13,628 --> 00:06:16,999 是一位证得了如幻解脱的大菩萨 185 00:06:17,261 --> 00:06:19,800 善财半信半疑地继续前行 186 00:06:20,021 --> 00:06:22,480 等他真正走到无厌足王面前 187 00:06:22,581 --> 00:06:24,280 国王告诉了他真相 188 00:06:24,581 --> 00:06:25,460 无厌足王说 189 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:27,400 我治理的这个国家 190 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:29,040 众生刚强难调 191 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:30,920 他们造的恶业极重 192 00:06:31,021 --> 00:06:33,100 杀人 放火 抢掠 193 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,160 无所不为 194 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:35,900 我用普通的教化方法 195 00:06:36,141 --> 00:06:37,480 他们听不进去 196 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:38,780 我用怀柔的政策 197 00:06:38,980 --> 00:06:40,400 他们变本加厉 198 00:06:40,461 --> 00:06:41,819 最后我没有办法 199 00:06:41,821 --> 00:06:43,660 只能用最严厉的刑罚 200 00:06:43,660 --> 00:06:45,739 让他们在巨大的痛苦面前 201 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:48,001 生起深深的恐惧 202 00:06:48,222 --> 00:06:50,100 但你看到的那些刑罚 203 00:06:50,102 --> 00:06:52,061 那些被割鼻 被砍手 204 00:06:52,062 --> 00:06:53,720 被下油锅的犯人 205 00:06:53,781 --> 00:06:56,641 他们都是我用神通幻化出来的 206 00:06:56,941 --> 00:06:58,280 他们不是真的人 207 00:06:58,662 --> 00:07:00,300 他们是我变出来的 208 00:07:00,302 --> 00:07:02,480 看起来像在受苦的演员 209 00:07:02,901 --> 00:07:05,561 我让真正的犯人看着这些幻像 210 00:07:05,581 --> 00:07:06,600 体验那种 211 00:07:06,701 --> 00:07:08,381 如果我不停止作恶 212 00:07:08,381 --> 00:07:09,501 这就是我的下场 213 00:07:09,701 --> 00:07:10,641 的恐惧 214 00:07:10,901 --> 00:07:12,220 然后他们的心中 215 00:07:12,222 --> 00:07:14,461 真的生起了对恶业的恐惧 216 00:07:14,461 --> 00:07:15,881 真的开始向善 217 00:07:16,461 --> 00:07:17,420 整个王国 218 00:07:17,422 --> 00:07:20,401 没有一个真正的犯人在我手上死过 219 00:07:20,701 --> 00:07:22,540 但整个王国的犯罪率 220 00:07:22,542 --> 00:07:24,081 降到了几乎为零 221 00:07:24,461 --> 00:07:25,261 善财听完 222 00:07:25,622 --> 00:07:26,902 五体投地 223 00:07:27,204 --> 00:07:27,962 我讲到这里 224 00:07:28,204 --> 00:07:29,642 你可能开始觉得 225 00:07:29,644 --> 00:07:31,402 佛经的脑洞是不是有点大 226 00:07:32,043 --> 00:07:33,803 用幻象吓唬犯人 227 00:07:34,404 --> 00:07:35,863 这听起来有点扯 228 00:07:36,363 --> 00:07:37,382 但你别急 229 00:07:37,604 --> 00:07:39,902 你把这个故事看作一个寓言 230 00:07:40,123 --> 00:07:42,462 看它真正想告诉你的是什么 231 00:07:42,964 --> 00:07:43,642 世俗的善 232 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:45,223 是行为分类 233 00:07:45,363 --> 00:07:46,642 做好事就是善 234 00:07:47,043 --> 00:07:48,663 做坏事就是恶 235 00:07:49,123 --> 00:07:51,503 一个国王把人扔进油锅 236 00:07:51,644 --> 00:07:52,923 无论他有什么理由 237 00:07:52,923 --> 00:07:53,902 这都是恶 238 00:07:54,204 --> 00:07:56,402 一个女子接待大量男人 239 00:07:56,404 --> 00:07:57,762 无论她有什么用意 240 00:07:57,764 --> 00:07:58,702 这也是恶 241 00:07:59,204 --> 00:08:02,063 但华严经在做一件极其大胆的事 242 00:08:02,284 --> 00:08:04,522 它把善和恶的判断标准 243 00:08:04,524 --> 00:08:07,342 从行为表面挪到了功能本质 244 00:08:07,644 --> 00:08:08,762 什么叫功能本质 245 00:08:09,803 --> 00:08:10,642 就是问一个问题 246 00:08:11,404 --> 00:08:12,303 这件事 247 00:08:12,324 --> 00:08:14,402 最终把众生导向觉醒 248 00:08:14,683 --> 00:08:15,762 还是导向沉沦 249 00:08:17,076 --> 00:08:18,596 婆须蜜多接待男人 250 00:08:18,877 --> 00:08:19,935 看起来是恶 251 00:08:20,197 --> 00:08:23,276 但她的存在让无数被欲望困住的人 252 00:08:23,276 --> 00:08:25,196 在欲望最炽烈的时刻 253 00:08:25,197 --> 00:08:26,516 看清了欲望的本质 254 00:08:26,797 --> 00:08:27,935 从此解脱 255 00:08:28,197 --> 00:08:29,115 她做的这件事 256 00:08:29,437 --> 00:08:31,615 功能上是导向觉醒的 257 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:32,776 所以她是善 258 00:08:33,117 --> 00:08:34,636 无厌足王施重刑 259 00:08:34,956 --> 00:08:36,096 看起来是恶 260 00:08:36,276 --> 00:08:40,816 但他用幻象让那些本来会真的去杀人放火的众生 261 00:08:40,836 --> 00:08:44,135 生起恐惧 停止造业 开始向善 262 00:08:44,356 --> 00:08:45,316 他做的这件事 263 00:08:45,596 --> 00:08:47,875 功能上是导向觉醒的 264 00:08:47,876 --> 00:08:49,056 所以他是善 265 00:08:49,957 --> 00:08:50,596 反过来想 266 00:08:50,957 --> 00:08:52,035 如果一个老师 267 00:08:52,037 --> 00:08:55,295 天天跟学生说做人要善良要包容 268 00:08:55,356 --> 00:08:58,856 但他自己其实是在用善良绑架学生 269 00:08:58,957 --> 00:09:01,936 让学生不敢拒绝任何不合理的要求 270 00:09:02,077 --> 00:09:03,795 最终把学生养成一个 271 00:09:03,797 --> 00:09:06,696 永远讨好别人 活得很拧巴的人 272 00:09:06,876 --> 00:09:07,996 这种善良教育 273 00:09:08,236 --> 00:09:09,816 看起来全是好话 274 00:09:09,837 --> 00:09:11,395 但功能上导向了什么 275 00:09:11,797 --> 00:09:14,976 导向了一个被自我欺骗困死的灵魂 276 00:09:15,276 --> 00:09:15,476 它 277 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:17,155 在佛学的标准里 278 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:18,535 根本不是善 279 00:09:18,797 --> 00:09:19,635 你听明白了吗 280 00:09:20,197 --> 00:09:21,295 佛学里的善 281 00:09:21,317 --> 00:09:23,375 它根本不是一个道德标签 282 00:09:23,516 --> 00:09:25,096 它是一个功能判断 283 00:09:25,837 --> 00:09:28,696 它问的不是你做这件事看起来好不好 284 00:09:28,756 --> 00:09:30,436 它问的是你做这件事 285 00:09:30,437 --> 00:09:33,236 最终能不能让众生离苦得乐 286 00:09:33,236 --> 00:09:34,375 走向觉醒 287 00:09:34,636 --> 00:09:35,076 如果能 288 00:09:35,396 --> 00:09:36,515 哪怕你的手段 289 00:09:36,516 --> 00:09:39,216 在世俗眼里看起来惊世骇俗 290 00:09:39,276 --> 00:09:40,915 做妓女 施重刑 291 00:09:40,917 --> 00:09:42,555 骂人 打人 说谎 292 00:09:42,797 --> 00:09:44,255 这些都可以是善 293 00:09:44,516 --> 00:09:45,196 如果不能 294 00:09:45,476 --> 00:09:46,716 哪怕你的行为 295 00:09:46,717 --> 00:09:49,196 在世俗眼里看起来无可挑剔 296 00:09:49,197 --> 00:09:51,076 天天念佛 月月供养 297 00:09:51,276 --> 00:09:52,696 口口声声慈悲 298 00:09:52,717 --> 00:09:54,155 这些也可能不是善 299 00:09:54,476 --> 00:09:56,152 甚至可能是大恶 300 00:09:56,734 --> 00:09:57,333 讲到这里 301 00:09:57,454 --> 00:09:58,672 我必须停一下 302 00:09:58,773 --> 00:10:00,633 做一个非常重要的提醒 303 00:10:00,814 --> 00:10:02,473 我刚才说的这个翻转 304 00:10:02,533 --> 00:10:04,713 听起来可能让一些人很兴奋 305 00:10:04,893 --> 00:10:05,093 哦 306 00:10:05,574 --> 00:10:07,012 原来佛学这么开放 307 00:10:07,413 --> 00:10:09,412 那我以后做点什么出格的事 308 00:10:09,413 --> 00:10:10,973 只要我说我是为了你好 309 00:10:10,974 --> 00:10:11,973 就是善知识了 310 00:10:12,694 --> 00:10:12,892 不 311 00:10:13,293 --> 00:10:14,233 不是这样 312 00:10:14,574 --> 00:10:18,792 华严经没有给任何人发超越道德的免责通行证 313 00:10:18,974 --> 00:10:21,953 婆须蜜多和无厌足王能做这些事 314 00:10:21,974 --> 00:10:23,593 有一个绝对的前提 315 00:10:23,814 --> 00:10:26,272 他们已经亲证了如幻解脱 316 00:10:26,373 --> 00:10:27,253 也就是说 317 00:10:27,253 --> 00:10:30,512 他们已经看穿了一切现象的虚幻本质 318 00:10:30,653 --> 00:10:33,152 他们的内心是绝对清明的 319 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:35,473 没有任何贪欲和嗔恨的 320 00:10:36,013 --> 00:10:37,873 他们做这些行为的动机 321 00:10:37,893 --> 00:10:40,353 百分之百是为了对方的觉醒 322 00:10:40,454 --> 00:10:41,772 没有一丝一毫 323 00:10:41,773 --> 00:10:44,432 是为了自己的快感 利益 面子 324 00:10:44,613 --> 00:10:46,312 普通人没有走到这一步 325 00:10:46,334 --> 00:10:47,892 你模仿他们的行为 326 00:10:47,893 --> 00:10:49,432 只会变成两件事 327 00:10:49,533 --> 00:10:51,692 要么是给自己的欲望找借口 328 00:10:51,694 --> 00:10:53,953 要么是给自己的暴戾找伪装 329 00:10:54,413 --> 00:10:56,133 所以华严经的这个深意 330 00:10:56,133 --> 00:10:58,613 不是给你一个突破道德的许可证 331 00:10:58,613 --> 00:11:01,384 而是给你一个识别真伪的尺子 332 00:11:01,684 --> 00:11:03,163 当你下次遇到一个人 333 00:11:03,164 --> 00:11:05,984 在思考他到底是不是真正的善人的时候 334 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:07,923 不要只看他的行为表面 335 00:11:07,924 --> 00:11:09,443 要看他做这件事的功能 336 00:11:09,845 --> 00:11:10,923 他在你身边 337 00:11:10,924 --> 00:11:12,163 让你越来越清明 338 00:11:12,404 --> 00:11:13,484 还是越来越混乱 339 00:11:14,085 --> 00:11:14,923 越来越自由 340 00:11:15,164 --> 00:11:16,244 还是越来越依赖 341 00:11:16,804 --> 00:11:18,384 越来越能直面自己 342 00:11:18,445 --> 00:11:20,083 还是越来越会自我欺骗 343 00:11:20,684 --> 00:11:21,844 如果是前者 344 00:11:21,845 --> 00:11:24,423 哪怕他骂你打你让你下不来台 345 00:11:24,485 --> 00:11:26,264 他可能是你的善知识 346 00:11:26,365 --> 00:11:27,443 如果是后者 347 00:11:27,445 --> 00:11:29,563 哪怕他天天对你嘘寒问暖 348 00:11:29,564 --> 00:11:30,663 说尽好话 349 00:11:30,684 --> 00:11:31,563 他在功能上 350 00:11:31,845 --> 00:11:33,744 可能正在把你往坑里推 351 00:11:34,164 --> 00:11:36,724 这才是华严经那五十三参 352 00:11:36,725 --> 00:11:39,047 真正想教给你的鉴别力 353 00:11:39,589 --> 00:11:40,888 我再扯远一点 354 00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:42,648 两千五百年前 355 00:11:42,749 --> 00:11:46,248 在印度恒河边的婆须蜜多和无厌足王 356 00:11:46,308 --> 00:11:47,628 讲这套道理的同时 357 00:11:48,109 --> 00:11:49,648 中国的春秋时期 358 00:11:49,668 --> 00:11:52,728 有一位老人也讲过几乎一模一样的话 359 00:11:53,229 --> 00:11:55,728 老子在道德经里说过一句话 360 00:11:55,948 --> 00:11:58,167 天下皆知美之为美 361 00:11:58,268 --> 00:11:59,248 斯恶已 362 00:11:59,428 --> 00:12:00,748 皆知善之为善 363 00:12:01,148 --> 00:12:02,327 斯不善已 364 00:12:02,349 --> 00:12:04,087 我用大白话翻一遍 365 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:07,547 天下人都知道把美定义成某个样子 366 00:12:07,548 --> 00:12:10,207 这个动作本身就已经是丑了 367 00:12:10,349 --> 00:12:13,347 天下人都知道把善定义成某个样子 368 00:12:13,349 --> 00:12:15,167 那不善就出现了 369 00:12:15,428 --> 00:12:18,023 你品一品这句话的杀伤力 370 00:12:18,604 --> 00:12:19,663 老子在说 371 00:12:19,683 --> 00:12:22,143 你一旦把善固定成一个标签 372 00:12:22,163 --> 00:12:24,143 比如做好事就是善 373 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,422 你就同时制造了它的反面 374 00:12:26,443 --> 00:12:28,342 不做好事就是不善 375 00:12:28,523 --> 00:12:31,422 然后人们就开始执着于这个标签 376 00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:34,462 开始为了被认为是善人而做事 377 00:12:34,563 --> 00:12:37,462 而不是为了真正利益对方而做事 378 00:12:37,683 --> 00:12:39,062 这个执着本身 379 00:12:39,084 --> 00:12:41,643 就让善变成了一种新的枷锁 380 00:12:41,643 --> 00:12:43,103 一种新的我执 381 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:44,942 老子的洞见 382 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:47,442 跟华严经在不同的语言系统里 383 00:12:47,443 --> 00:12:48,942 指向同一个真相 384 00:12:49,163 --> 00:12:50,643 善不是一个标签 385 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:52,702 不是一种行为分类 386 00:12:52,884 --> 00:12:54,442 一旦你把它变成标签 387 00:12:54,764 --> 00:12:55,783 它就死了 388 00:12:56,643 --> 00:12:59,422 它就变成了一种用来分别你我 389 00:12:59,443 --> 00:13:02,302 分别高下 分别是非的工具 390 00:13:02,484 --> 00:13:05,342 而不再是它原本想表达的那个东西 391 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:08,058 所以你回头看 392 00:13:08,238 --> 00:13:10,737 你念了一辈子的那些佛经词 393 00:13:11,319 --> 00:13:12,977 善男子善女人 394 00:13:13,118 --> 00:13:16,698 它根本不是在说心地善良的男人和女人 395 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:17,718 它是在说 396 00:13:17,998 --> 00:13:20,298 你这个走在觉醒路上的人 397 00:13:20,439 --> 00:13:23,097 你这个有志于看清实相的人 398 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,257 善在这里是一个修行的方向 399 00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:27,977 不是一个道德评价 400 00:13:28,358 --> 00:13:29,277 善知识 401 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:32,298 它根本不是在说心地善良的好老师 402 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:33,158 它是在说 403 00:13:33,478 --> 00:13:35,497 任何能让你觉醒的存在 404 00:13:36,198 --> 00:13:39,578 这个存在可以是一位德高望重的高僧 405 00:13:39,598 --> 00:13:42,698 也可以是一个让你恨得牙痒痒的对手 406 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:45,958 可以是你的孩子 你的伴侣 你的老板 407 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:49,137 甚至可以是一场让你彻底崩溃的疾病 408 00:13:49,358 --> 00:13:52,017 只要它最终把你导向觉醒 409 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,482 它就是你的善知识 410 00:13:54,902 --> 00:13:55,661 诸恶莫作 411 00:13:55,943 --> 00:13:57,082 众善奉行 412 00:13:57,262 --> 00:13:59,462 它也不是在说不要做坏事 413 00:13:59,703 --> 00:14:00,762 多做好事 414 00:14:01,142 --> 00:14:02,122 它是在说 415 00:14:02,142 --> 00:14:06,041 不要做任何让你和众生陷入更深迷惑的事 416 00:14:06,142 --> 00:14:10,041 要做任何能让你和众生导向更深觉醒的事 417 00:14:10,422 --> 00:14:11,362 这个标准 418 00:14:11,382 --> 00:14:14,641 远远高于世俗道德的好人坏人分类 419 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:16,502 我必须坦诚地说一句 420 00:14:16,902 --> 00:14:17,742 这个理解 421 00:14:17,742 --> 00:14:19,342 对绝大多数人来说 422 00:14:19,343 --> 00:14:21,962 反而比做好人的理解更难做到 423 00:14:22,262 --> 00:14:24,362 因为做好人是有标准的 424 00:14:24,583 --> 00:14:25,901 你不偷不抢不骗 425 00:14:26,502 --> 00:14:27,602 你乐于助人 426 00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:28,622 你尊老爱幼 427 00:14:28,983 --> 00:14:30,041 你就是好人 428 00:14:30,343 --> 00:14:32,202 这个标准是社会化的 429 00:14:32,262 --> 00:14:34,531 可以模仿的 可以打卡的 430 00:14:34,752 --> 00:14:35,391 但行善 431 00:14:35,671 --> 00:14:37,330 按照华严经的标准 432 00:14:37,472 --> 00:14:38,730 是没有标准的 433 00:14:38,992 --> 00:14:40,470 你今天对一个人柔软 434 00:14:40,752 --> 00:14:41,771 可能是善 435 00:14:41,911 --> 00:14:43,171 也可能是纵容 436 00:14:43,352 --> 00:14:44,830 你明天对一个人严厉 437 00:14:45,152 --> 00:14:46,171 可能是善 438 00:14:46,191 --> 00:14:47,450 也可能是发泄 439 00:14:47,711 --> 00:14:49,950 判断的依据不在你的行为 440 00:14:49,951 --> 00:14:51,251 而在你的动机 441 00:14:51,311 --> 00:14:55,051 以及这个行为对对方意识演化的真实功能 442 00:14:55,352 --> 00:14:55,950 这意味着 443 00:14:56,352 --> 00:14:57,371 真正的善 444 00:14:57,472 --> 00:15:00,450 需要你时刻保持一份极深的觉察 445 00:15:00,632 --> 00:15:01,791 觉察自己的动机 446 00:15:02,112 --> 00:15:03,651 觉察对方的状态 447 00:15:03,671 --> 00:15:06,771 觉察这个互动正在把对方导向哪里 448 00:15:06,951 --> 00:15:09,690 它不能被外包给任何道德规则 449 00:15:09,711 --> 00:15:10,791 它只能由你自己 450 00:15:11,191 --> 00:15:12,551 在每一个当下 451 00:15:12,551 --> 00:15:15,462 去亲自判断 亲自承担 452 00:15:15,763 --> 00:15:17,702 这就是为什么华严经说 453 00:15:17,803 --> 00:15:20,741 觉悟的路上有五十三种善知识 454 00:15:21,002 --> 00:15:23,501 你要见的不是五十三个好人 455 00:15:23,602 --> 00:15:26,741 你要见的是五十三个真实的境界 456 00:15:27,002 --> 00:15:31,221 每一个境界都在挑战你什么是善的固有定义 457 00:15:31,443 --> 00:15:32,361 每一次挑战 458 00:15:32,683 --> 00:15:34,562 都在松动你心里那个 459 00:15:34,563 --> 00:15:38,381 被社会化死死焊在你脑子里的善的标签 460 00:15:38,643 --> 00:15:40,342 等你走完五十三参 461 00:15:40,403 --> 00:15:43,302 你不再用任何标签去判断善 462 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:44,922 你只是在每一个当下 463 00:15:45,322 --> 00:15:46,101 看见 464 00:15:46,242 --> 00:15:49,662 看见动机 看见功能 看见结果 465 00:15:49,842 --> 00:15:50,662 那个时候 466 00:15:50,683 --> 00:15:55,021 你才真正配得上善男子或善女人这个称号 467 00:15:55,842 --> 00:15:57,861 不是因为你做了多少好事 468 00:15:57,923 --> 00:15:59,562 而是因为你的眼睛 469 00:15:59,563 --> 00:16:02,162 第一次在不戴标签的情况下 470 00:16:02,163 --> 00:16:03,880 看清了世界 471 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:05,580 那这一期讲到这里 472 00:16:05,581 --> 00:16:07,399 我必须留一个问题给你 473 00:16:07,581 --> 00:16:09,720 我刚才花了二十分钟告诉你 474 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:12,320 善在佛学里不是道德标签 475 00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:13,620 而是功能判断 476 00:16:13,981 --> 00:16:15,919 能导向觉醒就是善 477 00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:18,000 会导向沉沦就是恶 478 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:19,220 那么问题来了 479 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:21,419 如果善和恶的判断 480 00:16:21,421 --> 00:16:24,200 完全取决于它把众生导向哪里 481 00:16:24,260 --> 00:16:25,299 那是不是意味着 482 00:16:25,540 --> 00:16:27,519 在某些极端情境下 483 00:16:27,581 --> 00:16:28,779 杀人也可以是善 484 00:16:29,221 --> 00:16:30,766 救人也可以是恶 485 00:16:31,326 --> 00:16:33,745 佛经里其实记载过这样的故事 486 00:16:33,926 --> 00:16:35,365 释迦牟尼在某一世 487 00:16:35,566 --> 00:16:37,085 曾经在一艘船上 488 00:16:37,086 --> 00:16:40,926 亲手杀死了一个准备屠杀全船五百人的强盗 489 00:16:40,926 --> 00:16:41,445 经文说 490 00:16:41,806 --> 00:16:42,766 他这样做 491 00:16:42,767 --> 00:16:44,245 救了五百个人的命 492 00:16:44,247 --> 00:16:48,386 同时阻止了那个强盗造下杀五百人的极重恶业 493 00:16:48,527 --> 00:16:51,585 让他在死后不至于堕入最深的地狱 494 00:16:51,966 --> 00:16:53,945 这是一桩杀人的善行 495 00:16:54,367 --> 00:16:54,886 反过来 496 00:16:55,127 --> 00:16:56,465 你救一个人的命 497 00:16:56,487 --> 00:16:59,166 如果这个救助让他从此依赖你 498 00:16:59,167 --> 00:17:00,205 丧失独立 499 00:17:00,206 --> 00:17:02,386 变成一个永远长不大的灵魂 500 00:17:02,487 --> 00:17:04,382 这件事是善还是恶 501 00:17:04,983 --> 00:17:05,921 我不知道 502 00:17:06,343 --> 00:17:07,022 我只知道 503 00:17:07,383 --> 00:17:09,282 一旦你认真接受了 504 00:17:09,302 --> 00:17:11,921 华严经这个功能判断的标准 505 00:17:12,103 --> 00:17:16,481 你就再也不能用世俗的好人坏人那套简单的标签 506 00:17:16,543 --> 00:17:18,122 去看待这个世界了 507 00:17:18,502 --> 00:17:21,041 你要承担一份更重的责任 508 00:17:21,182 --> 00:17:22,362 用你的觉察 509 00:17:22,462 --> 00:17:25,961 去亲自判断每一个当下的善与恶 510 00:17:26,422 --> 00:17:29,201 这可能就是修行最难的部分 511 00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:31,253 也是最自由的部分 512 00:17:31,595 --> 00:17:33,194 对于这一期内容你怎么看 513 00:17:33,835 --> 00:17:34,993 在你的人生里 514 00:17:34,994 --> 00:17:37,333 有没有一个表面看起来很好的人 515 00:17:37,435 --> 00:17:39,154 实际上一直在让你变得更糟 516 00:17:39,714 --> 00:17:42,214 或者有没有一个表面看起来很坏的事 517 00:17:42,274 --> 00:17:43,593 反而让你彻底觉醒 518 00:17:44,195 --> 00:17:45,033 对于下一期 519 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:46,773 你想让我聊点什么 520 00:17:46,835 --> 00:17:49,127 欢迎在评论区告诉我 521 00:17:49,639 --> 00:17:50,173 我是王利杰 522 00:17:50,322 --> 00:17:51,166 我们下期见