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悉达多见到了佛陀

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为什么转身就走

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有一本书

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名字就叫<悉达多>

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书里的主人公

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一个苦苦寻找解脱的年轻人

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也叫悉达多

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他找了大半辈子

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有一天

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他真的遇见了佛陀本人

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一个已经彻底觉悟 圆满无缺的活佛

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站在他面前

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所有见过这位佛陀的人都拜倒在地

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他最好的朋友当场就皈依了

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留下来做了弟子

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可悉达多呢

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他盯着这位完美的觉者看了很久

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然后轻轻说了一句 谢谢你

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但我不会跟随你

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说完

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他转身

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独自走进了树林

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你想想这有多反常

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一个找了一辈子答案的人

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答案就活生生站在他面前

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伸手就能抓住

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他却撒手走了

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这个动作里

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藏着整本书最深的秘密

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可能也藏着 修行 这两个字最深的秘密

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哈喽

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大家好

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我是王利杰

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今天我们聊的这本<悉达多>

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作者是德国人赫尔曼 黑塞

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这本书写于一九二二年

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黑塞后来拿了诺贝尔文学奖

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他给这本小书加了一个副标题

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叫 一首印度的诗

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一个生在欧洲的德国人

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痴迷地读那些古老的东方经典

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结果写出了一本

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让全世界几代年轻人当成枕边书的小说

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很多人都是在最迷茫的时候翻开它的

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我们先得说清楚一个特别容易搞混的地方

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历史上那位真正的佛陀

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全名叫乔达摩 悉达多

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而黑塞做了一件很狡猾的事

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他把这个名字劈成了两半

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悉达多这半

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给了书里的主人公

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乔达摩这半

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给了书里那位真正的佛陀

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所以在这本书里

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悉达多和佛陀

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是两个不同的人

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但你把他们的名字合起来

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正好就是历史上那一个人

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黑塞这一刀劈得太妙了

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他好像在偷偷告诉你 你

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和佛

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本来是同一个名字

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只是被劈开了

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你这辈子要做的

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不是去追那失散的另一半

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而是自己活成完整的那一个人

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好

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现在回到那个核心问题

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佛陀就在眼前

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圆满无缺

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悉达多为什么要走

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书里写了他们那段对话

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我每次读都心头一震

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悉达多对佛陀说 世尊

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您的法义完美无瑕

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逻辑严密

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您把整个世界讲成了一条因果的链条

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清晰得无可辩驳

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您已经抵达了所有人追寻的顶峰

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可是

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您的法义里有一个小小的裂缝

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什么裂缝

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悉达多说 您在菩提树下

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独自一人

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在证悟的那一刹那

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到底发生了什么 - 这件事

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您没办法用语言讲出来

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您能教给我们的

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是一整套关于世界的知识

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但那个让您成为佛陀的 独自超越所有人的秘密

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它没法被装进任何一句话里

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传给我

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所以

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悉达多说

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没有人能靠着听别人的法义得到解脱

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我要去的

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是亲自经历那一刻

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或者撞个粉碎

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你听明白他在说什么了吗

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他不是说佛陀错了

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他说的是 觉悟

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不是一笔知识

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没法转交

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你可以把一张地图完整地交给我

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但你没办法把 走到过那里 这件事交给我

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我们之前硬核拆解<遥远的救世主>

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的时候聊过几乎一模一样的一幕

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智玄大师听完丁元英那套无懈可击的天道布局

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回他的也是这个意思 道理上对

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不等于真正做到

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地图画得再精准

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终究不是脚下那片真正的土地

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佛陀听完

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安静地看着他

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说了一句意味深长的话

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佛陀说 你很聪明

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我的朋友

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你很会说话

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但是

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要提防

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不要太过聪明

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然后佛陀走了

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悉达多也走了

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这两个人

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谁也没说服谁

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我说到这儿

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你有没有觉得

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这一幕

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戳中了我们这个时代很多人的痛处

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我们的评论区里

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反复有人在问同一个问题

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问得人心里发酸

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他们说 道理我都懂啊

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空性我也读明白了

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无常 无我

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讲得头头是道 - 可我为什么还是过不好这一生

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我一遇到事

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该焦虑还是焦虑

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该崩溃还是崩溃

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那些道理一个都顶不上用

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悉达多这个故事

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就是冲着这个问题来的

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懂

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和证到

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中间隔着一整条河

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你把佛经背得滚瓜烂熟

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那是别人渡河用的筏

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你只是把别人的筏摆在岸边看了又看

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你自己

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一次都没下过水

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那悉达多走了之后

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他干了什么呢

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这是这本书最颠覆 也最真实的地方

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你以为他 拜自己为师

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一个人去深山苦修

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很快就开悟了

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不是的

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他走出树林的第一个发现是 我找了这么多年

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又是当婆罗门

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又是当苦行的沙门

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我一直在拼命地消灭那个 我

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想把 我 溶化掉

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溶进那个叫梵 叫阿特曼的宇宙本体里去

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可结果呢

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我把自己给弄丢了

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我对这个神秘的悉达多

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竟然一无所知

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于是他做了一个决定 从今往后

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我不再苦修

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我要拜自己为师

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我要去认识这个我自己都不认识的悉达多

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听起来很励志对不对

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可这条路

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把他带去了哪儿

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它把悉达多一头带进了红尘

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他爱上了一个美丽的女人

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跟她学怎么爱

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他去做生意

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成了商人

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学会了赚钱 喝酒 赌博

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他越来越有钱

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越来越发福

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也越来越麻木

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那个曾经清瘦 圣洁的苦行者

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一点一点

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变成了一个贪婪的 焦虑的

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半夜要靠酒和赌才能睡着的世俗胖子

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他年轻时练就的三样本事 - 能斋戒

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能等待

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能思考 - 在酒色里一样一样地烂掉了

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有一天夜里

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他做了一个梦

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他梦见迦摩罗养在金笼里的那只会唱歌的小鸟

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那只鸟突然不叫了

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他走近一看

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鸟已经死了

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直挺挺地躺在笼子里

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他把死鸟掏出来

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随手扔到了巷子里

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就在扔出去的那一刻

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他被一种巨大的惊恐攥住了 - 他觉得

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自己是把生命里一切珍贵的 美好的东西

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连同这只死鸟

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一起扔掉了

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梦醒之后

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他厌恶透了自己

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当天

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他就一声不响地离开了那座城

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再也没回去

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他在林子里漫无目的地走啊走

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最后走到一条河边

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他看着河水

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只想纵身跳下去

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淹死自己

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了结这条又脏又累的命

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你看

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这个见过佛陀的人

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这个一心求道的人

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最后混成了一个想自杀的酒鬼

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可就在他松手 要往河里栽下去的那一刹那

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从他那片荒芜的灵魂深处

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浮起了一个声音

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一个字

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一个音节

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是那个古老而神圣的 唵

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这个字一从嘴里溜出来

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他长睡的灵魂猛地惊醒了

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他一下子认出了自己刚才那愚蠢的举动

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他没有死

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他疲惫地倒在河边的树下睡着了

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等他醒来

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一个崭新的悉达多

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诞生了

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后来他想明白了一件事

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我觉得这是整本书的钥匙

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他说 当我还是婆罗门 还是苦行者的时候

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我用斋戒 用忏悔去拼命扼杀那个 我

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可 我 反而躲在我那神圣的 骄傲的圣徒身份里

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偷偷地越长越大

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他必须先失去一切

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必须真的堕落下去

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必须亲身滚进贪婪 欲望和绝望里

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他才能真正地跟它们告别

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这里有一句话

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我想原原本本地念给你听

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悉达多说 淫乐和财富不属于善

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这件事我早就知道了

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我知道了很久

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可是这一次

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我不只是用思想知道

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我还用眼睛 用心灵 用肉体

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亲自经历了它

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你品品这句话

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早就知道

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和亲自经历过

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是两回事

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这就是为什么

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懂了那么多道理

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还是过不好

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因为道理是用脑子知道的

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而活着

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是用整个人去经历的

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佛陀那条干净的法义里

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恰恰没有这一段 - 没有那段他必须自己跌进去

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又自己爬出来的脏路

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悉达多当年看见的那个裂缝

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原来要用他整个后半生

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用一场彻底的沉沦

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才能填上

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被河水救起来之后

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悉达多没有再去找任何大师

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他留在了河边

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跟着一个摆渡的老船夫

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做了一个船夫

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他开始向这条河学习

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他每天听河水的声音

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慢慢地

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他听懂了 这条河

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它永远在流

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可它又永远在这里

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每一刻都是崭新的

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河水同时存在于它的源头 它的中段

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它的入海口 - 过去 现在 未来

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在这条河里是同时发生的

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而他年轻时那三样快烂掉的本事

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斋戒 等待 思考

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这时候又活了过来

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成了他真正的财富

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能等待

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能不慌

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能安安静静地听一条河说话

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这就是他全部的修行

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他没有去任何寺庙

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他的蒲团

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就是一条河

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和他认真活着的每一个当下

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包括他曾经跌进去的那些最深的坑

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可故事到这儿还没完

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你以为他成了河边的智者

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就圆满了

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这条河

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还给他留了最后一课

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而这一课

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差点又把他打垮

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他有一个儿子

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当年那个教会他怎么爱的女人迦摩罗

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带着孩子去朝拜佛陀的路上

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被毒蛇咬死了

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把一个十一岁的男孩留给了他

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你猜怎么着

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这个能一眼看穿佛陀

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连大彻大悟的活佛都敢拒绝的智者

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在自己亲儿子面前

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彻底破了功

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这孩子在城里的富贵窝里长大

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被宠坏了

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冷漠 任性

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根本瞧不起这个住破茅屋的船夫父亲

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他不肯爱悉达多

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而悉达多呢

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他放不下

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他眼睁睁看着儿子折磨自己 羞辱自己

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却舍不得发一句火

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一心想用温柔和耐心

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把这孩子冰冷的心慢慢焐热

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老船夫劝他 放手吧

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去问问河水

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可这一次

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悉达多一个字都听不进去

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这个能斋戒 能等待 能教别人放下的人

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在儿子这件事上

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活成了天底下最普通 最焦虑 最放不下的那种父母

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最后

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孩子还是连夜逃走了

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再也没回来

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悉达多痛得死去活来

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可也正是在这场痛里

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他才把最后一道功课参透了

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他忽然想起

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很多很多年前

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他自己不也是这样吗

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半夜里站着

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铁了心要离开他那个婆罗门父亲

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去当沙门

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当年他父亲拦不住他

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只能眼睁睁看着他走

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如今轮到他

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眼睁睁看着自己的儿子走

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这不就是一场轮回吗

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更扎心的是

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从前的悉达多

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心里总觉得自己比那些普通人高一截

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那些为孩子操碎了心的母亲

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那些为儿子骄傲发昏的父亲

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在他眼里

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都是些还没长大的孩子

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可现在

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他自己也尝到了这份盲目的 放不下的痛

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他一下子就懂了他们

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甚至爱上了他们

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他不再俯视世人

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他终于成了世人的兄弟

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你看

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知识

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让他能够拒绝佛陀

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可只有爱

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只有这场为儿子流的血

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才让他真正变得完整

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修行修到最后

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不是让你飞到人间的头顶上去

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恰恰是让你重新落回人间

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落回那份会痛 会牵挂 会放不下的人之常情里

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一个从来不会痛的人

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又谈什么慈悲呢

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所以你看

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悉达多最后走到的地方

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不是佛陀给他的

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恰恰是因为他拒绝了佛陀

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自己一路活下来 活到底

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连最不堪的那部分都活过了

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他才走到了

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这就引出一个特别拧巴 又特别诚实的问题

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我也想留给你

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如果觉悟真的没法传授

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如果别人的法义只是别人的筏

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那我做的这些视频

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你读的这些经

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你听的这些道理

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到底有什么用

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我们是不是都在干悉达多一开始干的那件事

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捧着别人的筏

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在岸边看了又看

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就是不肯下水

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我没有标准答案

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我自己也是那个在河里摸石头的人

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我能想到的是这样 悉达多最后没有去开宗立派

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没有写下一套法义

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他只是安安静静地做一个船夫

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把一个又一个人

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从这岸渡到那岸

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他不能替你过河

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但他能告诉你

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河

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是可以过的

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对岸是真的有人到过的

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也许这本<悉达多>

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我讲的这些话

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全部的用处也就到这儿 - 它们是别人的筏

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不是你的对岸

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它们最多能做的

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是有一天

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让你愿意亲自走到河边

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蹲下来

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把手伸进水里

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感觉一下那股真实的 冰凉的水流

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至于下水 过河这一步

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谁也替不了你

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这本<悉达多>

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你读过吗

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读的时候

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是哪一段戳中了你

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00:14:10,145 --> 00:14:11,962
是他拒绝佛陀那一刻

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还是他在河边想跳下去那一刻

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来评论区聊聊

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我特别想听听你的 那条河 在哪里

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我是王利杰

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我们下期见