1 00:00:00,304 --> 00:00:01,334 与运气竞争 2 00:00:01,864 --> 00:00:03,634 顾客雇的不是产品 3 00:00:03,944 --> 00:00:05,703 你以为顾客走进店里 4 00:00:05,703 --> 00:00:07,315 是来买一杯奶昔的 5 00:00:07,464 --> 00:00:08,942 可他真正买走的 6 00:00:08,944 --> 00:00:11,314 可能是一段不那么无聊的上班路 7 00:00:11,503 --> 00:00:14,355 可能是让自己不至于十点钟就饿肚子 8 00:00:14,503 --> 00:00:17,394 甚至可能是一次当好爸爸的机会 9 00:00:18,168 --> 00:00:19,888 如果你只盯着奶昔 10 00:00:19,889 --> 00:00:23,099 你会研究口味 杯子 价格和配料 11 00:00:23,328 --> 00:00:25,447 你会找来一群爱喝奶昔的人 12 00:00:25,449 --> 00:00:27,819 问他们喜欢更甜还是更浓 13 00:00:28,128 --> 00:00:30,607 然后你把所有意见认真记下来 14 00:00:30,609 --> 00:00:33,180 做出一杯各方面都更好的奶昔 15 00:00:33,449 --> 00:00:35,419 结果销量可能一点也没变 16 00:00:35,769 --> 00:00:37,699 问题不在你做得不够好 17 00:00:37,928 --> 00:00:38,640 问题在于 18 00:00:38,969 --> 00:00:40,047 从一开始 19 00:00:40,049 --> 00:00:41,979 你就认错了竞争对手 20 00:00:42,534 --> 00:00:42,885 哈喽 21 00:00:43,214 --> 00:00:43,686 大家好 22 00:00:44,055 --> 00:00:45,186 我是王利杰 23 00:00:45,455 --> 00:00:47,985 今天我们继续用佛学拆经济学 24 00:00:48,335 --> 00:00:49,406 上期讲哈耶克 25 00:00:49,775 --> 00:00:50,665 我们看到 26 00:00:50,815 --> 00:00:54,105 人一旦把心里的图纸当成外面的世界 27 00:00:54,375 --> 00:00:56,345 善意也可能长出控制 28 00:00:56,614 --> 00:00:58,985 这一期换一本谈创新的书 29 00:00:59,174 --> 00:01:02,053 克莱顿 克里斯坦森和几位合作者 30 00:01:02,055 --> 00:01:03,565 写的 与运气竞争 31 00:01:04,214 --> 00:01:05,586 这本书追问的是 32 00:01:05,614 --> 00:01:07,946 为什么有些创新投入巨大 33 00:01:07,974 --> 00:01:09,786 最后只能听天由命 34 00:01:10,134 --> 00:01:12,265 有些产品看起来并不惊艳 35 00:01:12,414 --> 00:01:14,385 却能被顾客牢牢抓住 36 00:01:14,893 --> 00:01:15,843 书名里的运气 37 00:01:16,132 --> 00:01:17,384 不是教人算命 38 00:01:17,613 --> 00:01:18,823 作者想说的是 39 00:01:18,932 --> 00:01:21,623 如果企业不知道顾客为什么做出选择 40 00:01:21,652 --> 00:01:22,923 新产品能不能成功 41 00:01:23,132 --> 00:01:24,783 就很像在碰运气 42 00:01:25,013 --> 00:01:26,691 你可以收集很多数据 43 00:01:26,692 --> 00:01:28,224 也可以做很多访谈 44 00:01:28,373 --> 00:01:31,372 你甚至可以按照年龄 收入和地区 45 00:01:31,373 --> 00:01:33,104 把用户分得清清楚楚 46 00:01:33,212 --> 00:01:35,092 可最后你依然不知道 47 00:01:35,093 --> 00:01:37,132 他为什么偏偏在那个时刻 48 00:01:37,132 --> 00:01:38,744 伸手拿了你的东西 49 00:01:39,202 --> 00:01:40,840 克里斯坦森给出的答案 50 00:01:40,842 --> 00:01:42,033 我先压缩成一句话 51 00:01:42,482 --> 00:01:44,253 顾客不是在购买产品 52 00:01:44,281 --> 00:01:46,280 而是在某个具体处境里 53 00:01:46,281 --> 00:01:47,932 雇佣一种解决方案 54 00:01:47,962 --> 00:01:50,372 帮自己把生活往前推进一点 55 00:01:50,641 --> 00:01:51,352 这里的雇佣 56 00:01:51,641 --> 00:01:53,253 不是真的签合同 57 00:01:53,641 --> 00:01:55,572 它是一种看问题的方法 58 00:01:55,881 --> 00:01:57,732 一个人从眼前的处境 59 00:01:57,801 --> 00:02:00,053 想走到另一个更满意的状态 60 00:02:00,202 --> 00:02:01,772 中间卡着一件事 61 00:02:01,962 --> 00:02:04,521 他就会把某个产品 某项服务 62 00:02:04,521 --> 00:02:06,772 甚至一个习惯请来干活 63 00:02:07,001 --> 00:02:07,473 干得好 64 00:02:07,682 --> 00:02:08,473 下次继续雇 65 00:02:08,761 --> 00:02:09,232 干不好 66 00:02:09,441 --> 00:02:10,493 就把它辞掉 67 00:02:11,337 --> 00:02:13,109 这听起来像营销学 68 00:02:13,218 --> 00:02:14,657 可真正厉害的地方 69 00:02:14,658 --> 00:02:16,829 是它把竞争重新定义了 70 00:02:17,098 --> 00:02:19,509 你以为电影院只跟电影院竞争 71 00:02:19,577 --> 00:02:22,268 其实它还跟在家刷短视频竞争 72 00:02:22,417 --> 00:02:24,949 你以为餐馆只跟隔壁餐馆竞争 73 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:28,057 其实它还跟回家煮面 便利店饭团 74 00:02:28,058 --> 00:02:29,748 甚至饿一顿算了竞争 75 00:02:29,978 --> 00:02:30,829 很多时候 76 00:02:30,897 --> 00:02:33,337 最强的对手根本不是另一个品牌 77 00:02:33,337 --> 00:02:34,976 而是不做 将就 78 00:02:34,978 --> 00:02:37,949 或者继续用那个已经用了十年的笨办法 79 00:02:38,371 --> 00:02:39,363 书里最著名的 80 00:02:39,651 --> 00:02:41,023 是奶昔的故事 81 00:02:41,091 --> 00:02:43,662 一家快餐店想提高奶昔销量 82 00:02:43,691 --> 00:02:45,291 问过顾客喜欢什么 83 00:02:45,291 --> 00:02:46,722 也按意见改过产品 84 00:02:46,971 --> 00:02:48,382 效果却不明显 85 00:02:48,772 --> 00:02:50,623 后来研究人员换了一个问题 86 00:02:51,091 --> 00:02:51,843 他们不再问 87 00:02:52,251 --> 00:02:53,743 什么样的奶昔更好 88 00:02:53,892 --> 00:02:55,382 而是站在店里观察 89 00:02:55,531 --> 00:02:57,702 什么人在什么时候买奶昔 90 00:02:57,772 --> 00:02:59,002 买完带到哪里去 91 00:02:59,411 --> 00:03:00,982 他还同时买了什么 92 00:03:01,131 --> 00:03:01,722 他们发现 93 00:03:02,131 --> 00:03:03,891 早上来买奶昔的一批人 94 00:03:03,892 --> 00:03:05,903 大多独自开车去上班 95 00:03:06,212 --> 00:03:08,623 前面是一段漫长又无聊的路 96 00:03:08,651 --> 00:03:10,783 他们需要一点东西陪着自己 97 00:03:11,251 --> 00:03:12,882 这个东西最好能单手拿 98 00:03:13,172 --> 00:03:14,011 不容易洒 99 00:03:14,012 --> 00:03:15,422 也不会一下吃完 100 00:03:16,172 --> 00:03:18,262 它还得让人撑到快中午 101 00:03:18,612 --> 00:03:20,502 奶昔恰好能干这份活 102 00:03:21,306 --> 00:03:22,437 从品类看 103 00:03:22,547 --> 00:03:24,958 它的竞争对手当然是别的饮料 104 00:03:25,346 --> 00:03:26,618 可从这份活来看 105 00:03:27,026 --> 00:03:28,597 香蕉很快就吃完 106 00:03:28,746 --> 00:03:29,757 贝果又干 107 00:03:29,906 --> 00:03:32,558 开车时还不方便抹奶油奶酪 108 00:03:32,626 --> 00:03:35,238 甜甜圈之类的食物又容易弄脏手 109 00:03:35,707 --> 00:03:37,757 奶昔不一定是最健康的 110 00:03:37,786 --> 00:03:39,757 也不一定是味道最复杂的 111 00:03:39,827 --> 00:03:41,266 但在那段通勤里 112 00:03:41,267 --> 00:03:44,118 它比许多看似不相干的东西更称职 113 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:45,744 到了下午 114 00:03:45,746 --> 00:03:49,076 同一杯奶昔又可能被雇来干完全不同的活 115 00:03:49,306 --> 00:03:51,117 一个家长带着孩子进店 116 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:52,636 孩子想喝奶昔 117 00:03:52,866 --> 00:03:53,777 家长答应了 118 00:03:54,026 --> 00:03:55,784 既轻松地表达了疼爱 119 00:03:55,785 --> 00:03:58,036 也多了一点小小的亲子时光 120 00:03:58,266 --> 00:03:58,736 这个时候 121 00:03:59,146 --> 00:04:00,464 奶昔如果太浓 122 00:04:00,466 --> 00:04:01,657 孩子半天喝不完 123 00:04:01,945 --> 00:04:03,356 家长反而着急 124 00:04:03,665 --> 00:04:05,665 早上让它显得优秀的特点 125 00:04:05,665 --> 00:04:07,597 到了下午可能成了缺点 126 00:04:07,746 --> 00:04:08,097 你看 127 00:04:08,586 --> 00:04:09,377 产品没变 128 00:04:09,785 --> 00:04:10,536 任务变了 129 00:04:11,026 --> 00:04:11,657 任务一变 130 00:04:12,026 --> 00:04:12,736 什么叫好 131 00:04:13,105 --> 00:04:14,157 也跟着变 132 00:04:15,242 --> 00:04:17,494 这就是这本书最锋利的一刀 133 00:04:18,043 --> 00:04:20,313 传统的眼光喜欢把人固定下来 134 00:04:20,763 --> 00:04:22,133 这是年轻顾客 135 00:04:22,162 --> 00:04:23,354 那是高收入顾客 136 00:04:23,803 --> 00:04:25,441 这是爱吃甜食的人 137 00:04:25,443 --> 00:04:27,013 那是重视健康的人 138 00:04:27,162 --> 00:04:28,162 可同一个人 139 00:04:28,162 --> 00:04:32,642 早上赶路时 下午陪孩子时 晚上心情低落时 140 00:04:32,643 --> 00:04:34,573 会雇佣完全不同的东西 141 00:04:35,203 --> 00:04:38,013 年龄没有告诉你他此刻卡在哪里 142 00:04:38,083 --> 00:04:41,373 收入也没有告诉你他想把生活推向哪里 143 00:04:42,291 --> 00:04:44,103 书里还有一个住房的案例 144 00:04:44,411 --> 00:04:47,822 一家没有公开名称的底特律地区住宅开发商 145 00:04:47,851 --> 00:04:51,262 面向准备缩小居住空间的人销售公寓 146 00:04:51,492 --> 00:04:54,783 也曾按照焦点小组的意见修改样板房 147 00:04:55,091 --> 00:04:56,622 来看房的人很多 148 00:04:56,731 --> 00:04:58,942 真正下决心的人却不多 149 00:04:59,331 --> 00:05:00,382 表面上看 150 00:05:00,452 --> 00:05:02,942 他们是在挑一套更合适的房子 151 00:05:03,172 --> 00:05:05,142 可继续追问才发现 152 00:05:05,291 --> 00:05:07,370 很多人真正跨不过去的 153 00:05:07,372 --> 00:05:09,011 不是房子的参数 154 00:05:09,012 --> 00:05:11,103 而是搬家这件事本身 155 00:05:12,174 --> 00:05:14,265 访谈中反复出现的线索 156 00:05:14,335 --> 00:05:15,785 是那张旧餐桌 157 00:05:16,135 --> 00:05:16,845 生日的时候 158 00:05:17,255 --> 00:05:19,306 一家人围着它吹过蜡烛 159 00:05:19,494 --> 00:05:20,465 过节的时候 160 00:05:20,614 --> 00:05:22,546 大家坐在这里吃过团圆饭 161 00:05:22,775 --> 00:05:24,705 孩子也曾趴在上面写作业 162 00:05:24,974 --> 00:05:25,686 卖掉旧屋 163 00:05:25,974 --> 00:05:27,465 不只是换一个地址 164 00:05:27,534 --> 00:05:28,866 也像是在承认 165 00:05:28,934 --> 00:05:31,025 人生的一段已经结束了 166 00:05:31,255 --> 00:05:32,573 新公寓再漂亮 167 00:05:32,575 --> 00:05:34,746 也不能替他们处理这种告别 168 00:05:35,054 --> 00:05:37,106 开发商原以为自己在卖房 169 00:05:37,294 --> 00:05:41,265 顾客却需要有人帮他完成一次不那么痛苦的人生过渡 170 00:05:42,207 --> 00:05:42,558 于是 171 00:05:42,807 --> 00:05:44,166 真正有用的改进 172 00:05:44,166 --> 00:05:46,526 不只是再给房子增加一个功能 173 00:05:46,526 --> 00:05:48,457 而是降低搬家的阻力 174 00:05:48,606 --> 00:05:51,125 帮顾客处理旧物 安排搬运 175 00:05:51,127 --> 00:05:53,337 让那段过渡变得可以承受 176 00:05:53,567 --> 00:05:54,478 顾客雇佣的 177 00:05:54,687 --> 00:05:56,325 不是一套钢筋水泥 178 00:05:56,327 --> 00:05:59,697 而是一种从旧生活走进新生活的办法 179 00:06:00,601 --> 00:06:01,560 讲到这里 180 00:06:01,561 --> 00:06:03,813 我们把佛学的显微镜架上来 181 00:06:04,002 --> 00:06:04,793 先说清楚 182 00:06:05,121 --> 00:06:06,760 接下来的佛学解释 183 00:06:06,762 --> 00:06:09,493 不是克里斯坦森在书里写下的结论 184 00:06:09,642 --> 00:06:12,412 也不是说这套商业理论来自佛学 185 00:06:12,642 --> 00:06:14,693 作者解决的是创新问题 186 00:06:14,921 --> 00:06:17,241 我们只是站在他搭好的台阶上 187 00:06:17,241 --> 00:06:19,532 再往人的认知结构里看一步 188 00:06:19,827 --> 00:06:20,627 第一步 189 00:06:20,681 --> 00:06:23,733 我们先借缘起来看处境与条件 190 00:06:24,002 --> 00:06:26,412 再借唯识学的依他起来看 191 00:06:26,522 --> 00:06:29,053 经验如何依因缘而现起 192 00:06:29,202 --> 00:06:30,032 两者相关 193 00:06:30,322 --> 00:06:32,092 但不能直接画等号 194 00:06:32,966 --> 00:06:36,178 一件任务不是藏在顾客脑子里的固定需求 195 00:06:36,286 --> 00:06:38,137 只等着企业把它挖出来 196 00:06:38,286 --> 00:06:41,418 它是在特定处境中被触发和显现的 197 00:06:41,606 --> 00:06:45,206 早晨的时间压力 漫长的车程 空着的肚子 198 00:06:45,206 --> 00:06:47,057 再加上只能腾出一只手 199 00:06:47,247 --> 00:06:48,598 这些条件聚到一起 200 00:06:48,887 --> 00:06:50,538 奶昔才成了答案 201 00:06:50,767 --> 00:06:52,125 条件发生变化 202 00:06:52,127 --> 00:06:54,618 顾客选择的解决方案也可能改变 203 00:06:55,367 --> 00:06:57,098 唯识所说的依他起 204 00:06:57,168 --> 00:07:00,619 是指经验与认知依众多因缘而生 205 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:03,098 这里我们只借它提醒自己 206 00:07:03,288 --> 00:07:05,778 不要脱离处境谈产品价值 207 00:07:05,927 --> 00:07:07,858 没有脱离处境的好产品 208 00:07:07,888 --> 00:07:11,298 就像没有脱离土壤 阳光和季节的好种子 209 00:07:11,528 --> 00:07:14,939 你把北方冬天里最好的棉袄送到热带海边 210 00:07:15,088 --> 00:07:16,846 它不会因为做工精良 211 00:07:16,848 --> 00:07:18,218 就继续是好东西 212 00:07:18,648 --> 00:07:21,218 好坏不是焊死在物体里的属性 213 00:07:21,288 --> 00:07:23,658 而是从关系里生出来的结果 214 00:07:24,241 --> 00:07:25,612 任务也是这样 215 00:07:25,761 --> 00:07:27,720 它不只来自一个人的欲望 216 00:07:27,722 --> 00:07:32,373 还来自他所在的时间 空间 关系 记忆和压力 217 00:07:32,761 --> 00:07:34,573 顾客自己有时都说不清 218 00:07:34,962 --> 00:07:36,292 你问他想要什么 219 00:07:36,321 --> 00:07:38,652 他会用已经见过的产品回答你 220 00:07:38,922 --> 00:07:41,972 他说想要更便宜的房子 更香的奶昔 221 00:07:42,001 --> 00:07:43,412 或者更快的软件 222 00:07:43,842 --> 00:07:46,172 可这些答案常常只是表层 223 00:07:46,722 --> 00:07:47,833 他真正过不去的 224 00:07:48,082 --> 00:07:49,373 可能是一段无聊 225 00:07:49,402 --> 00:07:50,773 可能是一场告别 226 00:07:50,801 --> 00:07:53,492 也可能是一个害怕被别人看低的时刻 227 00:07:54,191 --> 00:07:54,662 第二步 228 00:07:55,032 --> 00:07:56,683 是遍计所执 229 00:07:56,991 --> 00:07:58,203 我们上期讲过 230 00:07:58,272 --> 00:08:01,523 心很喜欢把流动的关系冻成固定的东西 231 00:08:01,832 --> 00:08:04,563 再把自己贴上的标签当成真实 232 00:08:04,792 --> 00:08:06,602 这在商业里尤其常见 233 00:08:06,871 --> 00:08:07,383 企业说 234 00:08:07,672 --> 00:08:08,991 我是做奶昔的 235 00:08:08,991 --> 00:08:10,623 我的对手就是别的奶昔 236 00:08:11,111 --> 00:08:12,390 我是做房子的 237 00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:14,503 我的任务就是把房子盖得更好 238 00:08:15,032 --> 00:08:16,311 我是做报纸的 239 00:08:16,311 --> 00:08:18,683 我的竞争对手就是另一份报纸 240 00:08:19,071 --> 00:08:20,922 这些品类当然有用 241 00:08:21,111 --> 00:08:21,782 没有标签 242 00:08:22,071 --> 00:08:23,683 仓库不知道怎么摆货 243 00:08:23,751 --> 00:08:25,802 会计也不知道怎么记账 244 00:08:26,111 --> 00:08:27,023 但麻烦在于 245 00:08:27,311 --> 00:08:29,602 人很容易从使用标签 246 00:08:29,672 --> 00:08:31,282 滑到相信标签 247 00:08:31,592 --> 00:08:33,023 标签本来只是地图 248 00:08:33,352 --> 00:08:35,123 最后却成了围墙 249 00:08:36,071 --> 00:08:38,922 墙里面的人天天研究同类产品 250 00:08:39,152 --> 00:08:41,911 墙外那个真正抢走顾客的旧习惯 251 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:43,282 反而没人看见 252 00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:45,721 一把电钻属于工具 253 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:48,581 可顾客真正想要的是墙上的洞吗 254 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:49,900 再往前问 255 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:52,400 他可能想挂一张全家福 256 00:08:52,789 --> 00:08:53,788 再往前问 257 00:08:53,789 --> 00:08:56,308 他可能想让刚搬进来的房子 258 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:58,240 终于有一点家的样子 259 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:59,900 企业盯着转速 260 00:09:00,310 --> 00:09:01,921 顾客想着归属感 261 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:03,640 两边都很认真 262 00:09:03,749 --> 00:09:06,041 却根本没有站在同一个世界里 263 00:09:06,509 --> 00:09:08,721 遍计所执最隐蔽的地方 264 00:09:08,789 --> 00:09:11,068 就是它会把自己的组织方式 265 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:13,240 当成顾客的生活方式 266 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:16,041 公司内部按产品分部门 267 00:09:16,149 --> 00:09:18,801 于是以为顾客也按产品生活 268 00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:21,321 可顾客早上不会醒来想 269 00:09:21,509 --> 00:09:24,961 今天我要为饮料行业贡献一笔收入 270 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:26,421 他只会觉得 271 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:27,749 我要迟到了 272 00:09:27,749 --> 00:09:28,581 路上很无聊 273 00:09:28,789 --> 00:09:30,201 而且十点钟会饿 274 00:09:30,915 --> 00:09:31,465 第三步 275 00:09:31,834 --> 00:09:33,646 是无自性与空性 276 00:09:33,994 --> 00:09:37,166 无我 无自性和空性密切相关 277 00:09:37,275 --> 00:09:39,766 但不能简单当成同一个概念 278 00:09:40,155 --> 00:09:41,485 很多人一听空 279 00:09:41,555 --> 00:09:44,205 就以为是在否定产品的价值 280 00:09:44,515 --> 00:09:45,526 恰恰相反 281 00:09:45,754 --> 00:09:46,834 空说的是 282 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:51,126 一个东西没有脱离关系 永远不变的固定身份 283 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:53,434 正因为没有固定身份 284 00:09:53,435 --> 00:09:57,246 它才有可能在不同关系里发挥不同作用 285 00:09:58,293 --> 00:09:59,524 奶昔不是奶昔吗 286 00:10:00,134 --> 00:10:00,985 当然是 287 00:10:01,374 --> 00:10:03,024 但它不只是奶昔 288 00:10:03,453 --> 00:10:04,325 对赶路的人 289 00:10:04,573 --> 00:10:06,225 它是一段时间的陪伴 290 00:10:06,614 --> 00:10:07,245 对孩子 291 00:10:07,494 --> 00:10:08,544 它是奖励 292 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:09,625 对家长 293 00:10:09,654 --> 00:10:12,264 它是一次轻松表达爱意的机会 294 00:10:12,693 --> 00:10:15,024 新公寓也不只是房子 295 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:17,465 它可能是轻松养老的开始 296 00:10:17,654 --> 00:10:20,384 也可能是一场难以承受的告别 297 00:10:20,933 --> 00:10:24,825 产品没有一个躲在内部 永远成立的本质 298 00:10:25,254 --> 00:10:25,884 它是谁 299 00:10:26,254 --> 00:10:28,424 要看它进入了怎样的关系 300 00:10:29,231 --> 00:10:31,082 这对企业其实很不舒服 301 00:10:31,432 --> 00:10:33,883 因为企业花了很多年建立身份 302 00:10:34,351 --> 00:10:35,302 我是做相机的 303 00:10:35,751 --> 00:10:37,123 我是做出租车的 304 00:10:37,152 --> 00:10:38,403 我是做教育的 305 00:10:38,792 --> 00:10:40,102 身份能带来秩序 306 00:10:40,591 --> 00:10:41,923 也会带来盲区 307 00:10:42,432 --> 00:10:44,523 一旦把我是谁抓得太紧 308 00:10:44,711 --> 00:10:47,682 就很难看见顾客正在雇佣别的东西 309 00:10:47,912 --> 00:10:50,082 完成原本属于你的那份活 310 00:10:50,593 --> 00:10:52,325 但这里也要特别小心 311 00:10:52,553 --> 00:10:54,245 把空性用到商业 312 00:10:54,274 --> 00:10:57,085 不等于理解了缘起就一定能发财 313 00:10:57,474 --> 00:11:00,564 商业成功更不能证明一个人更有智慧 314 00:11:00,913 --> 00:11:05,485 市场里还有成本 时机 资源 执行和偶然性 315 00:11:05,673 --> 00:11:08,644 也有很多并不高尚却很有效的手段 316 00:11:08,953 --> 00:11:11,005 佛学不是一套销售秘籍 317 00:11:11,154 --> 00:11:13,404 销量也不是觉悟的成绩单 318 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:15,684 我们只是借这本书看见 319 00:11:15,793 --> 00:11:17,312 执着固定身份 320 00:11:17,313 --> 00:11:19,644 会怎样遮住真实关系 321 00:11:20,351 --> 00:11:21,145 而且 322 00:11:21,145 --> 00:11:24,636 任务这个框架本身也不能变成新的教条 323 00:11:25,025 --> 00:11:26,717 如果我们开始相信 324 00:11:26,746 --> 00:11:30,396 每个选择背后都只有一项清清楚楚的任务 325 00:11:30,466 --> 00:11:33,036 只要找到它就能控制顾客 326 00:11:33,185 --> 00:11:36,036 那又回到了上一期那张总图纸 327 00:11:36,665 --> 00:11:40,837 真实的人常常同时想要几样互相矛盾的东西 328 00:11:41,385 --> 00:11:42,016 想省钱 329 00:11:42,385 --> 00:11:43,437 也想体面 330 00:11:43,866 --> 00:11:44,496 想改变 331 00:11:44,826 --> 00:11:45,917 也怕告别 332 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:47,136 想独立 333 00:11:47,425 --> 00:11:48,957 又舍不得被照顾 334 00:11:49,385 --> 00:11:51,225 他今天说出口的理由 335 00:11:51,226 --> 00:11:52,957 未必就是全部理由 336 00:11:53,502 --> 00:11:54,203 所以 337 00:11:54,203 --> 00:11:57,375 理解任务不是给人贴一个更高级的标签 338 00:11:57,443 --> 00:11:59,574 而是对处境保持耐心 339 00:11:59,924 --> 00:12:00,595 不是宣布 340 00:12:00,924 --> 00:12:02,643 我已经看穿你为什么买 341 00:12:02,644 --> 00:12:03,314 而是承认 342 00:12:03,563 --> 00:12:04,722 我还需要看看 343 00:12:04,723 --> 00:12:06,855 你当时究竟遇到了什么 344 00:12:07,083 --> 00:12:10,414 这也是我觉得克里斯坦森最值得尊敬的地方 345 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:13,414 他没有把创新讲成天才灵光一现 346 00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:15,403 而是让企业放下自恋 347 00:12:15,404 --> 00:12:18,334 去看顾客真实生活里的进退两难 348 00:12:18,804 --> 00:12:21,454 产品经理最容易爱上自己的产品 349 00:12:21,644 --> 00:12:23,482 创业者最容易相信 350 00:12:23,483 --> 00:12:27,814 顾客会因为我的技术先进 设计漂亮 理念伟大而来 351 00:12:28,203 --> 00:12:30,694 可顾客没有义务欣赏你的苦心 352 00:12:31,483 --> 00:12:33,454 他只是在过自己的日子 353 00:12:34,709 --> 00:12:34,901 好 354 00:12:35,229 --> 00:12:36,840 现在把镜头转回来 355 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:40,241 我们每个人其实也在不断雇佣东西 356 00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:41,741 你下班回家 357 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:43,161 明明不饿 358 00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:45,121 却还是打开了外卖软件 359 00:12:45,469 --> 00:12:47,748 你雇佣的也许不是食物 360 00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:49,001 而是一点安慰 361 00:12:49,390 --> 00:12:51,840 你睡前停不下来地刷手机 362 00:12:51,949 --> 00:12:54,029 雇佣的也许不是资讯 363 00:12:54,030 --> 00:12:55,440 而是逃开安静 364 00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:58,320 你买了一门一直没打开的课程 365 00:12:58,390 --> 00:13:00,560 雇佣的也许不是知识 366 00:13:00,630 --> 00:13:03,601 而是那种我已经开始改变了的感觉 367 00:13:04,109 --> 00:13:05,800 你和人争论到深夜 368 00:13:05,829 --> 00:13:07,909 雇佣的也许不是道理 369 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:10,481 而是一次我没有被忽视的证明 370 00:13:10,893 --> 00:13:12,584 东西本身未必有错 371 00:13:12,773 --> 00:13:14,012 真正值得看的 372 00:13:14,013 --> 00:13:15,903 是它被我们雇来干什么 373 00:13:16,253 --> 00:13:18,143 有些东西干活很勤快 374 00:13:18,253 --> 00:13:20,704 却把生活推向了相反的方向 375 00:13:21,052 --> 00:13:22,704 酒精被雇来消愁 376 00:13:22,812 --> 00:13:24,163 第二天又带来新的愁 377 00:13:24,853 --> 00:13:26,903 愤怒被雇来保护尊严 378 00:13:27,013 --> 00:13:29,244 最后烧掉了本来想保护的关系 379 00:13:29,853 --> 00:13:32,104 拖延被雇来躲避失败 380 00:13:32,212 --> 00:13:34,023 却让失败越来越近 381 00:13:34,392 --> 00:13:37,403 修行有时不是立刻把这些东西辞掉 382 00:13:37,552 --> 00:13:39,723 而是先看清那份聘书 383 00:13:39,951 --> 00:13:40,462 下一次 384 00:13:40,792 --> 00:13:42,523 手又伸向手机的时候 385 00:13:42,591 --> 00:13:43,603 先停一下 386 00:13:43,672 --> 00:13:45,723 看看你的胸口是不是有点空 387 00:13:45,951 --> 00:13:48,442 手指是不是已经习惯性地往下滑 388 00:13:48,672 --> 00:13:49,302 再问自己 389 00:13:49,711 --> 00:13:51,582 我现在想从哪里走到哪里 390 00:13:51,951 --> 00:13:53,271 我是在找信息 391 00:13:53,272 --> 00:13:55,062 还是不想面对心里的空落 392 00:13:55,591 --> 00:13:57,223 下一次控制孩子时 393 00:13:57,432 --> 00:13:58,523 也可以看一眼 394 00:13:58,591 --> 00:13:59,863 我雇佣这句责备 395 00:14:00,152 --> 00:14:01,630 到底是帮他成长 396 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:03,582 还是帮我暂时压住焦虑 397 00:14:04,431 --> 00:14:05,763 这个问题很轻 398 00:14:05,951 --> 00:14:08,123 却可能比自律更有力量 399 00:14:08,671 --> 00:14:09,782 因为只盯着行为 400 00:14:10,071 --> 00:14:11,522 你会跟自己打仗 401 00:14:11,872 --> 00:14:13,503 看见行为背后的任务 402 00:14:13,752 --> 00:14:14,710 你才知道 403 00:14:14,711 --> 00:14:17,162 那个习惯为什么一直不肯走 404 00:14:17,591 --> 00:14:18,983 它不是赖在你身上 405 00:14:19,392 --> 00:14:20,802 它是在替你干活 406 00:14:21,272 --> 00:14:23,643 只是它的办法已经过时了 407 00:14:23,877 --> 00:14:24,671 于是 408 00:14:24,671 --> 00:14:27,763 改变也不再只是咬牙辞掉旧方案 409 00:14:27,912 --> 00:14:30,123 而是找到一个更合适的方案 410 00:14:30,152 --> 00:14:31,963 接住原来那份任务 411 00:14:32,351 --> 00:14:34,123 你不是跟手机竞争 412 00:14:34,191 --> 00:14:37,003 你是在跟逃避安静的旧办法竞争 413 00:14:37,272 --> 00:14:39,123 你不是跟坏脾气竞争 414 00:14:39,152 --> 00:14:41,922 你是在跟保护自己的旧办法竞争 415 00:14:42,591 --> 00:14:44,603 你甚至不是跟懒惰竞争 416 00:14:44,632 --> 00:14:48,643 你是在跟那个害怕努力以后仍然失败的自己相处 417 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:51,781 与运气竞争 在商业上问 418 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:53,980 顾客为什么雇佣这个产品 419 00:14:54,249 --> 00:14:55,969 佛学再往里问一步 420 00:14:55,969 --> 00:14:58,980 那个急着把生活推进到某处的我 421 00:14:59,090 --> 00:15:01,360 又是怎样在条件中生起来的 422 00:15:01,849 --> 00:15:04,368 如果连这个我也不是固定的 423 00:15:04,369 --> 00:15:05,740 那么所谓进步 424 00:15:05,769 --> 00:15:09,320 会不会有时只是从一个标签赶往另一个标签 425 00:15:09,769 --> 00:15:11,888 从不够成功赶往成功 426 00:15:11,889 --> 00:15:13,980 从不够优秀赶往优秀 427 00:15:14,009 --> 00:15:17,421 从别人看不起我赶往别人终于承认我 428 00:15:17,570 --> 00:15:19,340 我们雇佣了那么多东西 429 00:15:19,450 --> 00:15:21,820 以为它们在帮我们抵达终点 430 00:15:21,930 --> 00:15:23,248 可有些终点 431 00:15:23,249 --> 00:15:26,340 本身就是心临时画出来的 432 00:15:26,506 --> 00:15:27,896 产品没有固定身份 433 00:15:28,185 --> 00:15:29,317 顾客也没有 434 00:15:29,466 --> 00:15:30,217 处境在变 435 00:15:30,545 --> 00:15:31,597 关系在变 436 00:15:31,705 --> 00:15:33,416 那个觉得自己缺了什么的我 437 00:15:33,746 --> 00:15:34,636 也在变 438 00:15:34,986 --> 00:15:35,997 看见这一层 439 00:15:36,026 --> 00:15:38,636 不是从此什么都不买 什么都不做 440 00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:39,977 而是少一点自动 441 00:15:40,386 --> 00:15:41,957 多个刹那的清醒 442 00:15:42,226 --> 00:15:45,477 克里斯坦森希望企业回到顾客的具体处境 443 00:15:45,545 --> 00:15:47,396 让创新少一些猜测 444 00:15:47,425 --> 00:15:49,276 多一些可预测的依据 445 00:15:49,626 --> 00:15:52,396 佛学帮我们摆脱盲目追逐的方法 446 00:15:52,466 --> 00:15:54,396 也是回到当下的处境 447 00:15:54,585 --> 00:15:56,425 先不急着给自己下定义 448 00:15:56,425 --> 00:15:58,556 也不急着雇来下一个答案 449 00:15:58,785 --> 00:16:00,824 看看此刻究竟缺什么 450 00:16:00,825 --> 00:16:03,077 那个缺又是怎么生起来的 451 00:16:03,192 --> 00:16:04,882 我也想把问题留给你 452 00:16:05,031 --> 00:16:07,722 你最近反复购买 反复打开 453 00:16:07,791 --> 00:16:09,882 或者怎么也放不下的一样东西 454 00:16:10,151 --> 00:16:12,262 究竟被你雇来完成什么任务 455 00:16:12,712 --> 00:16:14,751 它真的把生活往前推了 456 00:16:14,751 --> 00:16:17,382 还是只让你暂时不用面对原地的自己 457 00:16:18,072 --> 00:16:19,102 也欢迎你说说 458 00:16:19,432 --> 00:16:20,790 除了同类产品 459 00:16:20,791 --> 00:16:23,642 你见过最意外的竞争对手是什么 460 00:16:23,952 --> 00:16:24,622 我是王利杰 461 00:16:24,911 --> 00:16:26,011 我们下期见