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瑜伽师地论 四问

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你看到的世界就变了

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你知不知道

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绝大多数人打坐

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都在做同一件事

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试图让脑子安静下来

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念头来了

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赶走

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又来了

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再赶走

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就像用手去拍水面上的波纹

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越拍越乱

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一千五百年前

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瑜伽师地论里记载了一套完全不同的方法

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它不让你闭嘴

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它让你追问

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不是一个问题

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是四个

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一层比一层深

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问完这四个问题

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你不需要让世界安静下来

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因为你会发现

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那个吵闹的世界

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本来就是你自己搭建出来的

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哈喽

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大家好

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我是王利杰

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上一期我们把瑜伽师地论的一百卷拆了个全景

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十七地

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从感官到禅定

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从闻法到成佛

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一张完整的地图

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但地图给你了

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路怎么走

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这就是今天要讲的

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瑜伽师地论里最核心的实修方法

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叫四寻思

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很多观众留言说过一句话

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我听了不止一遍

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道理我都懂

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但做不到

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其实这句话本身就暴露了问题所在

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你说你懂了空性

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懂了无我

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懂了一切是因缘假合

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但你仔细想一想

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你到底懂了什么

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你懂的是一组语言

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一组文字

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一组标签

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空是个标签

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无我是个标签

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因缘假合还是个标签

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你以为你理解了那个标签指向的东西

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但实际上

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你只是把一组旧标签换成了一组新标签

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旧标签叫我是真实的

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新标签叫我是虚幻的

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标签换了

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底层的操作系统一点没变

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四寻思干的就是这件事

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不是给你换标签

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而是让你亲眼看到

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标签是怎么被贴上去的

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第一个追问

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名寻思

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你拿起一杯咖啡

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你说

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这是咖啡

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但咖啡这两个字是谁规定的

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你换一个星球

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换一种语言

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换一群从来没见过这种液体的人

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咖啡这个名字就不存在了

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但那杯液体

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它还在

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名寻思让你去观察的就是这个

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我们给万事万物起的名字

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只是一个约定

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一个社会契约

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它不是那个东西本身

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你觉得这太浅了

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别急

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你观察一下自己的日常

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有人骂你一句脏话

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你生气了

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但你生气的是那个声波吗

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不是

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你生气的是那个名字所携带的含义

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换一种你不懂的语言

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同样的音节组合变成一句完全无害的话

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你一点反应都没有

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你的快乐和痛苦

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有一大半不是事情本身造成的

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是名字造成的

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名寻思就是让你在每一次情绪升起的瞬间去看

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我在对一个名字起反应

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还是在对真实发生的事情起反应

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你现在就可以试

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看看你手边的任何一样东西

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你心里会立刻浮出它的名字

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杯子

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手机

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桌子

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你有没有注意到

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名字一出来

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你和那个东西之间就多了一层东西

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名字像一片磨砂玻璃

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插在你和世界之间

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你透过这片玻璃看到的

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不是东西本身

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而是名字投射出来的影子

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名寻思要做的

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就是偶尔把这片玻璃拿开

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看看没有名字的世界长什么样

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你会发现

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没有名字的世界

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出奇地安静

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这一步做到了

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世界就安静了一圈

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但还不够

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第二个追问

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事寻思

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名字是约定俗成的

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那名字指向的那个东西呢

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你剥掉了咖啡这个标签

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剩下一杯棕色的热液体

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但棕色 热 液体

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这些也是标签

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你继续剥

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剥到分子

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剥到原子

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剥到量子场的振动

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你剥到哪一层

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才算摸到了那个真正的东西

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事寻思告诉你一个让人不太舒服的结论

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没有哪一层是最终的

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你以为名字后面有一个固定不变的实体在那里等着你

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但你去找

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找不到

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每一层你打开

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下面还是一层建构

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那个东西不是被你发现的

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是被你的意识组装的

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这和认知科学里的预测编码理论几乎是同一个发现

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你的大脑不是在被动接收世界的信号

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它是在主动建构一个模型

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然后把模型当成了现实

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佛法发现了同样的事情

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只不过早了一千五百年

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名寻思拆的是第一层包装纸

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事寻思拆的是第二层

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而你会发现

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包装纸下面还是包装纸

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没有一个赤裸裸的礼物藏在最里面

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到这一步

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很多人会恐慌

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如果名字是假的

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名字指向的东西也是建构的

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那我活着是在跟什么打交道

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别慌

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这不是虚无主义的终点

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这是自由的入口

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你想想看

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如果世界真的有一个固定不变的底层

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那你也被钉死了

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你的痛苦就是真的痛苦

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你的困境就是真的困境

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没有任何余地

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但如果一切都是被建构的

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那每一个此刻

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都是一次全新的建构

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上一秒的焦虑不必延续到下一秒

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不是因为你忍住了

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而是因为上一秒的那个焦虑

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本来就不是一个实体

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它是一组条件临时凑在一起产生的一次运算

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条件变了

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运算结果就变了

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这就是佛法说的空

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空不是没有

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是没有被锁死

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第三个追问

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自性假立寻思

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前两步你拆掉了名字和事物

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你要拆的是我们最深的一个信念

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它本来就是这样的

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你看到一朵花

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你觉得它就是红色的

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但红色是花的本性吗

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关掉灯

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它不红了

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换一双色觉异常的眼睛看

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它变成了灰色

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用蜜蜂的紫外线视觉看

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同一朵花上浮现出人类完全看不到的纹路和图案

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红色不是花的属性

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是你的视觉系统和花的反射光谱之间的一次合作

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把其中任何一个条件换掉

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红色就不存在了

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你有没有过那种感觉

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某一瞬间你特别确定

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一个人就是那样的人

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一件事就是那样的事

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自性假立寻思让你在那个确定感升起的瞬间停下来

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问一句

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这个确定

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是事物的属性

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还是我的条件刚好凑在一起临时涌现出来的

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佛法管这个叫无自性

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但请注意

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无自性不是说什么都不存在

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花还在

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颜色还在

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只是它天生就是红色的这个结论不成立

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不是否定现象

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是否定现象背后有一个固定不变的本质

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这里面有一个非常精密的分寸

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你不需要否定世界

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你只需要看到

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你对世界的那些天经地义的判断

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全都是有条件的

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条件一变

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判断就跟着变

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当你真的看到这一点

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执着就松了

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因为执着的本质

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就是我认定它本来就该如此

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而没有什么是本来就该如此的

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第四个追问

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差别假立寻思

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这是最后一刀

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也是最深的一刀

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前三步你拆掉了名字 事物和自性

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但你还剩一样东西没拆

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分别

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你还在说

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这个和那个不一样

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好和坏不一样

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美和丑不一样

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生和死不一样

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我和你不一样

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差别假立寻思问你

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这些区别

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是世界本身自带的

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还是你的意识画上去的

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你站在河边

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你说这边是上游

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那边是下游

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但河有没有给自己画一条线

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说从这里开始是下游

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没有

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是你画的

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你站的位置变了

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上游和下游的分界就跟着移动了

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好和坏也是一样

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你丢了工作

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当时你说这是坏事

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三年后回头看

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那次失业逼你转行

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走上了完全不同的路

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你说那其实是好事

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同一件事

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差别变了

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变的不是事情

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是你的视角

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差别假立寻思不是让你变成一个不分好坏的人

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它是让你看到

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所有的差别 分类 高下之分

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都是意识的一次运算

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不是世界的固有属性

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你还是会分

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但你不再被分法绑架

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这一步做到的时候

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有一个非常微妙的体验

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你看世界的方式好像没变

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该分的还在分

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该判断的还在判断

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但你心里有一种很轻的感觉

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像一直紧握的拳头终于松开了

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不是你决定松的

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是你看到拳头里其实什么都没有握住

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你握了一辈子的那个东西

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是你自己画出来的一条线

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四个追问走完

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瑜伽师地论管那个结果叫四如实智

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名如实智

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事如实智

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自性如实智

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差别如实智

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知变成了智

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不是你获得了一种新的知识

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而是你的认知模式本身发生了质变

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从我知道这是假的

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变成我亲眼看见了它是怎么被搭建起来的

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知道和看见之间

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隔着一整个修行

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你有没有注意到

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四寻思和认知行为疗法做的事情几乎一样

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认知行为疗法让你写思维记录

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你在想什么

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这个想法的证据是什么

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有没有其他解释

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如果换一个角度呢

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四层追问

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名字 事物 自性 差别

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完全对得上

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只不过认知行为疗法到换一个更健康的想法就停了

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四寻思不停在那里

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它继续追问

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那个更健康的想法

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也是被建构出来的

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讲完四寻思

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再说另一套进阶方法

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叫五重唯识观

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这不是瑜伽师地论原文直接提出的

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是玄奘的大弟子窥基在大乘法苑义林章里整理出来的

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可以看作四寻思的升级版

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五步

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一步比一步深

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第一步

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遣虚存实

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把明显不真实的东西先放下

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你幻想的未来

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你编造的恐惧

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你对别人的猜测

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这些都是虚的

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先把这些清掉

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只留下此刻真实呈现在你面前的东西

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第二步

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舍滥留纯

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留下来的东西里面

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还有杂质

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你看一棵树

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你看到的不只是树本身

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还有你对这棵树的记忆 你的联想

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你不自觉投射上去的情绪

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把这些杂质也剥掉

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只留纯粹的当下呈现

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第三步

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摄末归本

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纯粹的当下呈现

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它从哪里来的

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不是从树来的

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是从你的识来的

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没有你的意识参与

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就没有这棵树的呈现

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这一步是把目光从外面收回来

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回到意识本身

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第四步

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隐劣显胜

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意识也有层次

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表层的意识是浪花

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深层的觉性是大海

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这一步是把浪花放下

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直接看大海

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第五步

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遣相证性

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这是最后一步

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连大海这个比喻也要放下

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连觉性这个概念也要放下

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因为任何概念

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任何形象

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都还是意识搭建出来的

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最后一层建构拆掉

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你触摸到的就是圆成实性

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你注意到没有

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整个五重唯识观只做了一个动作

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减

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不是给你加什么新东西

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是一层一层往下拿

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拿走幻想

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拿走杂质

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拿走外境

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拿走粗识

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拿走概念

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最后剩下的那个

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没有名字

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每个认真坐过禅的人都有过那么一两个瞬间

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念头停了

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但你还在

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世界还在

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就是少了一个东西

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少了那个你平时叫做我的标签

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那个瞬间非常短

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短到你还来不及给它贴名字

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它就过去了

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五重唯识观做的事情

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就是帮你把那个瞬间拉长

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但我要说一句实话

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五重唯识观不是入门工具

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它是给已经在四寻思上下过功夫的人准备的进阶路径

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如果你连日常中的追问习惯都还没有建立起来

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先从四寻思开始

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四寻思是地面作战

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一个念头一个念头地拆

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五重唯识观是登高望远

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看整个意识运作的全景

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你得先在地面上走稳了

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才能飞起来看全局

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今天讲的这两套方法

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四寻思和五重唯识观

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合在一起就是唯识学实修的核心

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它们回答了一个观众问了我很多次的问题

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修行到底修什么

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我的回答是

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修行修的不是获得什么新东西

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而是看清你已经在做什么

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你每一秒钟都在给世界贴名字 赋意义

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设自性 画差别

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四寻思就是让你看见这个过程

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看见了

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执着就松了

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松了

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你不需要刻意放下

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因为你会发现

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从来就没有拿起过

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下次你生气的时候

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或者焦虑的时候

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你不需要压住它

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你只需要在那一秒钟问自己一句

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我现在在对什么起反应

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是那个名字

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那个我以为的东西

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那个我认定的天生如此

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还是那条我自己画出来的线

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你不需要回答

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你只需要问

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问的那一瞬间

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你和你的情绪之间就出现了一条缝

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那条缝里面

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什么都没有

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但那个什么都没有

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就是自由

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你有没有试过这种追问式的冥想

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你在日常生活里最容易被哪一层绑架

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是名字

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是事物的表象

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是天生如此的错觉

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还是你画出来的差别

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如果你曾经在某个安静的瞬间

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感受突然变了

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那一刻你到底看到了什么

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我是王利杰

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我们下期见