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圆觉经

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醒了的人

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为什么还要修

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你有没有遇到过这种情况

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道理你全懂

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甚至比身边的人懂得还多

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可是一到现实里

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该焦虑还是焦虑

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该纠结还是纠结

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你明明知道不该执着

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可手就是松不开

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你坐在那里告诉自己放下

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越念叨越抓得紧

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有观众留言说

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上一期听完

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知道自己本来是醒着的

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可还是醒不过来

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还有人问

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我脑子停不下来

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连半梦半醒的时候都在想事情

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该怎么修止

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这些问题

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一千三百多年前就有人替你问过了

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哈喽

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大家好

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我是王利杰

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上一期我们聊了圆觉经的前半部分

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那期说了一件事

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觉性本圆

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你本来就是醒着的

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知幻即离

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不作方便

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你认出幻相的那一刻

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就已经从幻里出来了

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但那期留了一个问题没展开

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如果本来就是醒的

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为什么还要修

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更关键的是

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怎么修

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今天我们接着聊圆觉经的后半段

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它专门回答这个问题

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先说一件很多人没注意过的事

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圆觉经不像很多经典那样是佛陀一个人从头讲到尾

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它的结构是一场问答

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十二位菩萨轮流站起来提问

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经文开头就列了名字

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文殊师利 普贤 普眼 金刚藏

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弥勒 清净慧 威德自在 辩音

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净诸业障 普觉 圆觉 贤善首

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每位菩萨问的角度都不一样

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一个比一个具体

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前面几位问什么是觉 怎么离幻

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后面的菩萨越问越实际

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到底怎么修

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有几种修法

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修错了怎么办

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所以圆觉经的后半段

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说白了就是一份修行的操作手册

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而且是一份非常接地气的手册

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因为每位菩萨问的问题

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恰好就是你在修行路上一定会遇到的问题

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你想问的那些话

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一千三百多年前就有人替你说了

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而且问得比你更准

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你可能会说

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上一期你告诉我觉性本来就有

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不需要修

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这一期又讲怎么修

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不矛盾吗

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不矛盾

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经文自己把这件事说得很清楚

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善男子

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一切如来圆觉清净本无修习及修习者

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一切菩萨及末世众生依于未觉幻力修习

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尔时便有二十五种清净定轮

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你听这句话

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本来没有修习这件事

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也没有一个在修的人

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但因为你还没有觉到那个地步

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你需要借一个幻的方法去破幻

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上一期讲的以幻修幻就是这个意思

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两块木头摩擦生火

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火着了

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木头也烧完了

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方法和问题一起消失

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明白了这个前提

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我们来看圆觉经到底给了哪几种修法

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威德自在菩萨替你问了这个问题

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佛陀的回答是

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方便随顺其数无量

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圆摄所归

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循性差别当有三种

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方法有无数种

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但归纳起来

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按众生根性的不同

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分成三大类

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第一种

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奢摩他

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经文说

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善男子

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若诸菩萨悟净圆觉

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以净觉心

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取静为行

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由澄诸念

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觉识烦动

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静慧发生

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身心客尘从此永灭

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便能内发寂静轻安

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由寂静故

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十方世界诸如来心于中显现

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如镜中像

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此方便者名奢摩他

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奢摩他翻译过来就是止

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取静为行

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把安静本身当作修行的入口

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你可能也有过类似的体验

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找一个安静的地方坐下来

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什么都不做

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就是看着自己的念头

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刚开始的时候念头特别多

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像锅里煮沸的水翻来翻去

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但你不管它

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你就看着

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慢慢地

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水面平了

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经文说在那个静的状态里待久了

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身心客尘从此永灭

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什么是客尘

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就是那些本来不属于你的杂质

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它们是客人

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不是主人

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你静下来了

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客人自己就走了

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然后你心里会发生一件事

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如镜中像

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你的心变成一面干净的镜子

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觉性在里面显现出来

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我打一个简单的比方

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你手机同时开了三十个应用

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卡得要命

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奢摩他做的事就是一个一个把后台关掉

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不是把手机砸了换新的

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是让它回到本来就有的流畅状态

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手机没有变快

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它本来就这么快

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是那些应用把它拖慢的

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这就是为什么经文用了如镜中像这个比喻

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镜子不是你擦出来的

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灰尘去掉了

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镜子本来就在那里

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三摩钵提

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善男子

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若诸菩萨悟净圆觉

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以净觉心

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知觉心性及与根尘皆因幻化

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即起诸幻以除幻者

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变化诸幻而开幻众

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由起幻故便能内发大悲轻安

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一切菩萨从此起行

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渐次增进

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彼观幻者非同幻故

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非同幻观皆是幻故

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幻相永离

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是诸菩萨所圆妙行

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如土长苗

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此方便者名三摩钵提

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三摩钵提在这部经里的意思接近于观

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经文叫它如幻观

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跟奢摩他正好相反

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奢摩他是把一切停下来

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三摩钵提是直接走进去

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你不逃避念头

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你带着一个清醒的意识看着它们

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你知道眼前这一切都是幻化的

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你就在幻里面修

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经文用了一个比喻

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如土长苗

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种子埋在土里

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不是种子变成了土

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也不是土变成了种子

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种子借助土壤长出来了

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你在幻化的世界里修行

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世界是幻的

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但你在幻里长出来的觉知不是幻的

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我再打一个比方

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你在看一部电影

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奢摩他的做法是关掉电影

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让自己安静下来

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三摩钵提的做法是继续看

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但你清楚地知道自己在看电影

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主角哭了你不会真的伤心

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反派赢了你不会真的愤怒

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你在电影里面

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但你不被电影带走

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第三种

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善男子

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若诸菩萨悟净圆觉

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以净觉心不取幻化及诸静相

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了知身心皆为罣碍

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无知觉明不依诸碍

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永得超过碍无碍境 受用世界及与身心

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相在尘域

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如器中锽声出于外

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烦恼涅槃不相留碍

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便能内发寂灭轻安 妙觉随顺 寂灭境界

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自他身心所不能及

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众生寿命皆为浮想

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此方便者名为禅那

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禅那最难讲

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因为它不取幻化

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也不取静相

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既不像奢摩他那样追求安静

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也不像三摩钵提那样在幻里面修

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它把两边都放下了

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经文说如器中锽声出于外

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锽是古代钟磬一类铜器被敲响后发出的共鸣声

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声音从器里传出来

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但声音不是器本身

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觉性从你的身心里透出来

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但觉性不是你的身心

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如果说奢摩他是关掉所有后台应用让手机恢复流畅

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三摩钵提是带着觉知继续使用手机

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那禅那就是你突然意识到

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你不是手机

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你是拿着手机的那个人

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手机卡不卡

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跟你没关系

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三种方法讲完了

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但接下来有一件事很重要

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辩音菩萨紧接着问了一个非常实际的问题

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这三种法门到底怎么搭配

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先修哪个后修哪个

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佛陀说

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三种法可以单修

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可以按先后搭配来修

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也可以两种同时修再配第三种

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再加上三种圆融一起修

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总共二十五种清净定轮

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二十五种

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什么意思

246
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就是没有一套标准答案适合所有人

247
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你是什么根性

248
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就适合什么搭配

249
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有人问过我

250
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说自己慧强定弱

251
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理解力很好

252
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就是坐不住

253
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脑子停不下来

254
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按经文的思路来推演

255
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先取至静可能适合你

256
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用奢摩他的力量让心安定下来

257
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然后再用观的智慧去照

258
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先止后观

259
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先关掉后台应用

260
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再去看清楚屏幕上显示的是什么

261
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有的人天生安静

262
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不缺定力

263
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缺的是在日常生活里行动的能力

264
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那就先修三摩钵提

265
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先学会在幻化的世界里行菩萨道

266
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在真实的生活里做事

267
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关键不是哪种最好

268
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而是哪种最适合你

269
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圆觉经在这里非常务实

270
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它不是给你一个唯一的标准答案

271
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它是给你一张菜单

272
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让你根据自己的状况来选

273
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不过经文给的选法更有意思

274
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于二十五轮各安标记

275
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至心求哀

276
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随手结取

277
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就是在二十五轮上各做一个标记

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诚心祈请

279
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然后随手抽一个

280
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你看

281
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连选哪条路都不让你自己做主

282
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交出那个我来挑最优方案的念头

283
00:10:06,795 --> 00:10:08,541
本身就是一种修

284
00:10:08,714 --> 00:10:11,061
这个念头待会儿还会出现

285
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它有个名字

286
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叫作病

287
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修法讲完了还没完

288
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你以为有了方法就万事大吉了吗

289
00:10:18,532 --> 00:10:20,440
圆觉经没有停在这里

290
00:10:20,613 --> 00:10:23,520
普觉菩萨站起来问了一个更锋利的问题

291
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他的原话是

292
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快说禅病

293
00:10:27,012 --> 00:10:28,339
修行里面有什么病

294
00:10:28,932 --> 00:10:29,979
你注意这个语气

295
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快说

296
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说明这个问题太要紧了

297
00:10:33,172 --> 00:10:34,160
不能再拖

298
00:10:34,613 --> 00:10:36,560
佛陀直接给出了四种病

299
00:10:36,932 --> 00:10:39,959
我第一次读到这段经文的时候后背发凉

300
00:10:40,252 --> 00:10:42,719
因为每一种我都在自己身上见过

301
00:10:43,052 --> 00:10:44,339
不是见过一种两种

302
00:10:44,613 --> 00:10:46,635
是四种全中过

303
00:10:47,048 --> 00:10:47,655
善男子

304
00:10:48,408 --> 00:10:51,796
彼善知识所证妙法应离四病

305
00:10:52,048 --> 00:10:52,976
云何四病

306
00:10:53,609 --> 00:10:54,615
一者作病

307
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若复有人作如是言

308
00:10:57,369 --> 00:11:00,755
我于本心作种种行欲求圆觉

309
00:11:01,088 --> 00:11:03,096
彼圆觉性非作得故

310
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说名为病

311
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二者任病

312
00:11:06,328 --> 00:11:08,015
若复有人作如是言

313
00:11:08,448 --> 00:11:11,515
我等今者不断生死 不求涅槃

314
00:11:11,649 --> 00:11:13,916
涅槃 生死无起灭念

315
00:11:14,048 --> 00:11:17,196
任彼一切随诸法性欲求圆觉

316
00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:19,255
彼圆觉性非任有故

317
00:11:19,649 --> 00:11:20,716
说名为病

318
00:11:20,928 --> 00:11:21,976
三者止病

319
00:11:22,408 --> 00:11:24,135
若复有人作如是言

320
00:11:24,489 --> 00:11:28,035
我今自心永息诸念得一切性

321
00:11:28,088 --> 00:11:30,355
寂然平等欲求圆觉

322
00:11:30,528 --> 00:11:32,456
彼圆觉性非止合故

323
00:11:32,808 --> 00:11:33,875
说名为病

324
00:11:34,688 --> 00:11:35,615
四者灭病

325
00:11:36,208 --> 00:11:38,135
若复有人作如是言

326
00:11:38,609 --> 00:11:40,716
我今永断一切烦恼

327
00:11:40,808 --> 00:11:42,956
身心毕竟空无所有

328
00:11:43,009 --> 00:11:45,316
何况根尘虚妄境界

329
00:11:45,369 --> 00:11:47,716
一切永寂欲求圆觉

330
00:11:47,928 --> 00:11:50,015
彼圆觉性非寂相故

331
00:11:50,328 --> 00:11:51,436
说名为病

332
00:11:51,609 --> 00:11:53,956
离四病者则知清净

333
00:11:54,088 --> 00:11:56,275
作是观者名为正观

334
00:11:56,408 --> 00:11:58,589
若他观者名为邪观

335
00:11:59,081 --> 00:12:01,108
我一条一条拆开来讲

336
00:12:01,401 --> 00:12:01,809
第一种

337
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作病

338
00:12:03,281 --> 00:12:04,508
就是拼命做

339
00:12:05,081 --> 00:12:06,049
你拼命打坐

340
00:12:06,401 --> 00:12:07,469
拼命念经

341
00:12:07,521 --> 00:12:09,228
拼命修各种法门

342
00:12:09,441 --> 00:12:12,148
觉得做得越多离觉悟就越近

343
00:12:12,482 --> 00:12:13,528
但经文说了

344
00:12:13,962 --> 00:12:16,709
彼圆觉性非作得故

345
00:12:17,201 --> 00:12:18,868
觉悟不是做出来的

346
00:12:19,041 --> 00:12:19,809
你越用力

347
00:12:20,041 --> 00:12:21,069
离它越远

348
00:12:21,681 --> 00:12:23,868
你可能也有过类似的经历

349
00:12:24,242 --> 00:12:26,069
工作上遇到一个难题

350
00:12:26,201 --> 00:12:28,988
坐在桌前苦想怎么都想不通

351
00:12:29,441 --> 00:12:30,969
后来你出门散了个步

352
00:12:31,321 --> 00:12:32,508
或者洗了个澡

353
00:12:32,602 --> 00:12:34,309
答案自己蹦出来了

354
00:12:34,762 --> 00:12:36,108
觉悟也是这样

355
00:12:36,281 --> 00:12:38,388
它不是你硬挤出来的东西

356
00:12:39,220 --> 00:12:39,706
第二种

357
00:12:40,139 --> 00:12:40,887
任病

358
00:12:41,259 --> 00:12:42,326
就是放任

359
00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:45,106
有些人读了上一期之后可能会这样想

360
00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:47,007
既然一切都是幻

361
00:12:47,139 --> 00:12:48,466
那我什么都不用管了

362
00:12:48,739 --> 00:12:50,167
顺其自然就好

363
00:12:50,419 --> 00:12:51,507
听上去很洒脱

364
00:12:51,899 --> 00:12:53,127
其实是偷懒

365
00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:54,267
经文说了

366
00:12:54,739 --> 00:12:57,167
彼圆觉性非任有故

367
00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:58,966
你一直躺着不动

368
00:12:59,060 --> 00:13:01,647
觉悟不会自己从天上掉下来

369
00:13:01,860 --> 00:13:02,787
你还在梦里

370
00:13:03,139 --> 00:13:05,259
光嘴上说梦是假的

371
00:13:05,259 --> 00:13:06,604
你还是没醒

372
00:13:06,818 --> 00:13:07,425
第三种

373
00:13:07,737 --> 00:13:08,484
止病

374
00:13:08,897 --> 00:13:10,084
就是压念头

375
00:13:10,417 --> 00:13:12,645
你告诉自己不要想不要想

376
00:13:12,818 --> 00:13:14,844
心里一个念头也不许冒出来

377
00:13:15,137 --> 00:13:16,145
但经文说了

378
00:13:16,377 --> 00:13:18,765
彼圆觉性非止合故

379
00:13:19,218 --> 00:13:22,645
觉悟不是把念头全压死就能得到的

380
00:13:22,857 --> 00:13:24,025
把念头压死了

381
00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:24,824
那不叫觉

382
00:13:25,218 --> 00:13:26,364
叫冻住了

383
00:13:26,857 --> 00:13:29,204
水面结冰了看着很平静

384
00:13:29,257 --> 00:13:30,577
但那不是清净

385
00:13:30,578 --> 00:13:32,004
是硬冻

386
00:13:32,417 --> 00:13:32,984
第四种

387
00:13:33,297 --> 00:13:34,045
灭病

388
00:13:34,338 --> 00:13:36,285
就是追求一片空无

389
00:13:36,657 --> 00:13:39,645
你觉得修行的终点应该是什么都没有

390
00:13:39,698 --> 00:13:40,844
身心全空

391
00:13:40,858 --> 00:13:42,004
一切寂灭

392
00:13:42,218 --> 00:13:43,185
但经文说了

393
00:13:43,578 --> 00:13:46,084
彼圆觉性非寂相故

394
00:13:46,338 --> 00:13:47,384
上一期我们讲过

395
00:13:47,818 --> 00:13:49,004
诸幻虽尽

396
00:13:49,057 --> 00:13:50,165
不入断灭

397
00:13:50,417 --> 00:13:51,525
觉心不动

398
00:13:51,818 --> 00:13:54,565
幻消失了剩下的不是虚无

399
00:13:54,657 --> 00:13:56,004
是觉知本身

400
00:13:56,377 --> 00:14:00,187
追求空无恰恰是把觉性跟虚无搞混了

401
00:14:00,293 --> 00:14:01,094
你看

402
00:14:01,721 --> 00:14:02,908
拼命做是病

403
00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,748
放任不管是病

404
00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,388
压念头是病

405
00:14:06,801 --> 00:14:08,467
追求空无也是病

406
00:14:08,921 --> 00:14:11,827
我常常想起自己刚开始接触冥想的时候

407
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,307
一会儿觉得自己要更努力地坐

408
00:14:14,441 --> 00:14:16,428
一会儿又觉得应该什么都不管

409
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,067
有时候拼命压念头压到头疼

410
00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,268
有时候又追求那种万念俱灭的空白感

411
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,648
来回折腾了好久

412
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,148
后来才明白

413
00:14:25,201 --> 00:14:27,579
折腾本身就是病

414
00:14:27,832 --> 00:14:28,960
那到底该怎么办

415
00:14:29,592 --> 00:14:32,100
这就是圆觉经最精妙的地方

416
00:14:32,352 --> 00:14:33,079
它告诉你

417
00:14:33,393 --> 00:14:34,659
任何一种方法

418
00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:35,840
一旦你执着于它

419
00:14:36,153 --> 00:14:37,340
它就变成了病

420
00:14:37,592 --> 00:14:39,220
你用奢摩他修止

421
00:14:39,232 --> 00:14:41,100
执着那个安静的状态

422
00:14:41,193 --> 00:14:43,419
安静本身就成了枷锁

423
00:14:43,592 --> 00:14:45,380
你用三摩钵提修观

424
00:14:45,472 --> 00:14:47,980
沉迷于在幻里度众生的快感

425
00:14:48,112 --> 00:14:49,779
快感就成了新的幻

426
00:14:49,992 --> 00:14:52,059
你用禅那超越一切

427
00:14:52,112 --> 00:14:53,779
执着于超越的姿态

428
00:14:53,913 --> 00:14:56,100
超越本身就是自欺

429
00:14:56,433 --> 00:14:57,579
方法是筏

430
00:14:57,913 --> 00:15:00,320
过了河就该放下

431
00:15:00,534 --> 00:15:01,621
经文说得明白

432
00:15:01,973 --> 00:15:04,040
离四病者则知清净

433
00:15:04,133 --> 00:15:06,200
作是观者名为正观

434
00:15:06,493 --> 00:15:07,580
你不执着于做

435
00:15:07,934 --> 00:15:09,280
不执着于不做

436
00:15:09,294 --> 00:15:10,180
不执着于止

437
00:15:10,453 --> 00:15:11,560
不执着于灭

438
00:15:11,973 --> 00:15:13,841
四种执着都放下了

439
00:15:13,853 --> 00:15:15,320
你看到的那个东西

440
00:15:15,453 --> 00:15:17,299
才是本来的清净

441
00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:18,552
说到这里

442
00:15:18,552 --> 00:15:21,180
让我把这两期的线索合在一起

443
00:15:21,432 --> 00:15:22,399
上一期讲的是

444
00:15:22,753 --> 00:15:23,680
知幻即离

445
00:15:23,873 --> 00:15:24,940
不作方便

446
00:15:25,192 --> 00:15:27,951
你认出幻就已经从幻里出来了

447
00:15:27,952 --> 00:15:29,820
不需要另外再做什么

448
00:15:30,033 --> 00:15:30,960
这一期讲的是

449
00:15:31,233 --> 00:15:33,220
在你还没有认出幻之前

450
00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:36,220
你需要用幻的方法来练习认幻

451
00:15:36,753 --> 00:15:39,019
三种方法是练习的工具

452
00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:42,100
二十五种搭配是因人而异的路径

453
00:15:42,312 --> 00:15:45,340
四种病是修行路上最常踩的坑

454
00:15:45,513 --> 00:15:46,460
但最终

455
00:15:46,472 --> 00:15:49,205
所有的方法都指向同一个地方

456
00:15:49,579 --> 00:15:50,585
你用完了方法

457
00:15:50,898 --> 00:15:52,017
放下了方法

458
00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:53,657
不再执着于方法

459
00:15:53,658 --> 00:15:56,126
也不再执着于放下方法

460
00:15:56,498 --> 00:15:58,565
到了那个时候你回头看

461
00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:01,046
发现自己一直就站在那里

462
00:16:01,498 --> 00:16:03,166
不是你走到了那里

463
00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:06,526
是你终于看见了自己一直站在那里

464
00:16:06,898 --> 00:16:09,886
这就是圆觉经最让我感叹的地方

465
00:16:10,258 --> 00:16:13,686
它用了整部经的篇幅给你讲了各种方法

466
00:16:13,738 --> 00:16:15,325
然后在最后告诉你

467
00:16:15,418 --> 00:16:17,245
所有方法都是幻

468
00:16:17,658 --> 00:16:19,297
但如果没有这些方法

469
00:16:19,298 --> 00:16:21,686
你不会发现方法是幻的

470
00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:24,605
就像上一期说的那个钻木取火的比喻

471
00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:27,245
火着了木头也烧完了

472
00:16:27,258 --> 00:16:29,864
但没有木头你点不着火

473
00:16:30,238 --> 00:16:32,425
下次你安静坐着的时候

474
00:16:32,518 --> 00:16:35,024
不管是在打坐还是只是发呆

475
00:16:35,197 --> 00:16:38,105
试试观察一下自己在怎么对待念头

476
00:16:38,238 --> 00:16:39,484
你是在拼命压它

477
00:16:39,758 --> 00:16:41,144
还是在跟着它跑

478
00:16:41,197 --> 00:16:43,124
还是在看着它来来去去

479
00:16:43,638 --> 00:16:45,384
你不需要做任何判断

480
00:16:45,557 --> 00:16:47,945
你只需要注意到你在做什么

481
00:16:48,118 --> 00:16:49,164
注意到的那一刻

482
00:16:49,478 --> 00:16:51,232
你已经在修了

483
00:16:51,762 --> 00:16:54,430
你觉得自己平时最容易掉进哪一种病

484
00:16:55,046 --> 00:16:55,719
是拼命做

485
00:16:56,085 --> 00:16:57,360
还是放任不管

486
00:16:57,416 --> 00:16:58,338
还是压念头

487
00:16:58,622 --> 00:16:59,835
还是追求空无

488
00:17:00,327 --> 00:17:02,101
留言告诉我你的想法

489
00:17:02,156 --> 00:17:02,911
我是王利杰

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