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觉醒之后

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七情六欲还在吗

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特斯拉给了我答案

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如果你真的觉醒了

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是不是就没有七情六欲了

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是不是就变成一个冷冰冰的木头人

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爱人从你身边走过

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你心里毫无波澜

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父母老去生病

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你连眼泪都流不出来

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吃到最喜欢的那道菜

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你也只是淡淡一笑

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像在嚼一团无味的纸

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这是我后台一个观众最近问我的问题

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她说她对修行很好奇

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可是一想到觉醒以后连喜怒哀乐都没有了

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她就害怕得不敢再往里走

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她说

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这样的觉醒

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我不要

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哈喽

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大家好

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我是王利杰

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我今天非常想认真地回答这个问题

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因为它不是她一个人的疑问

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它可能是百分之九十九对修行有好奇心的人

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心里那道最大的门槛

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甚至我可以这么说

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这个误会

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直接把绝大多数人挡在了真正的觉醒门外

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他们以为觉醒是一把剪刀

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把人心里所有鲜活的东西咔嚓剪掉

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他们以为觉者是一尊石像

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风吹雨打

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只是空洞地坐在那里

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今天我想告诉你

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完全不是这么回事

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而且我要用一个你每天都可能看到的东西

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给你一个极其精准的答案

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这个东西

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叫特斯拉的全自动驾驶

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先说结论

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觉知

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不代表没有情绪

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七情六欲

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一个也不会少

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喜怒哀乐

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贪嗔痴慢疑

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统统都还在

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觉醒的人不是少了什么

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而是多了一样东西

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多了的那样东西

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叫做觉知本身

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你可以想象一下

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特斯拉最新的全自动驾驶模式

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你坐在驾驶位上

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车子自己打方向、自己变道

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自己超车、自己避让行人

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在这个模式下

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你其实可以做三件事

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第一

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你可以睡过去

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眼睛一闭

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完全交给车

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车该怎么开就怎么开

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遇到小坑小洼

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它自己处理

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遇到急刹减速

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它自己判断

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你完全不参与

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第二

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你可以看着

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眼睛睁得大大的

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每一次变道、每一次加速、每一次刹车

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你都看在眼里

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你看到了

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但你并没有把手放回方向盘

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你只是一个清醒的乘客

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第三

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你可以接管

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当车即将冲向一个你判断会非常危险的情境

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你的手一把抓回方向盘

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覆盖掉自动驾驶

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完成你想要的那个动作

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危险过去之后

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你再把车交还给那个自动模式

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继续看着

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普通人的人生

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就是第一种状态

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睡过去

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你的情绪在底层自动运行

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愤怒来了你就暴怒

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贪欲来了你就扑上去

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嫉妒来了你就酸溜溜地发作

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你完全不知道谁在开车

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你就是那辆车本身

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或者更准确地说

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你以为你就是那辆车本身

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觉醒的人

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是第二种加第三种的混合状态

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车还在开

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情绪还在起

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只是驾驶位上多了一个醒着的人

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他看着情绪怎么发生、怎么膨胀

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怎么试图劫持整辆车

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大部分时候他只是看着

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不出手 - 因为出手本身就是另一种纠缠

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只有当这股情绪眼看要把车撞进悬崖的时候

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他才会接管一下

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说一句不该说的话之前

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停半秒

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想摔门而出之前

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呼吸一下

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然后

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他把车交还给那个自动运行的系统

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继续看着

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你看出来没有

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觉知不是剪刀

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觉知是后排那个本来就该醒着、却一直睡着了的乘客

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终于睁开了眼睛

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这个比喻不是诗意

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它在神经科学上有一个非常硬的对应

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你大脑里有两套系统

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一套是边缘系统

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核心是杏仁核

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负责情绪的自动产生

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杏仁核有多快

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从一个刺激进入你的眼睛

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到它命令你身体分泌肾上腺素

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大约只需要一百毫秒

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也就是说

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在你意识到自己生气之前

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你的身体已经生气了

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那个愤怒不是你决定的

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它是一个进化了几亿年的硬件反应

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你关不掉

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你也没必要关

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它是你祖先能活下来的原因之一

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另一套系统是前额叶皮层

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特别是背外侧前额叶和前扣带回的前部

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它负责元认知

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也就是观察自己正在认知的那个能力

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它的反应慢得多

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可能要三百到五百毫秒才能介入

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但是它有一个边缘系统没有的本事

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它能够看见边缘系统正在做什么

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然后决定要不要接管

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这两套系统的关系

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和特斯拉的关系一模一样

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边缘系统就是那个自动驾驶的人工智能

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专门处理每一个具体的路况

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前额叶皮层就是那个坐在驾驶位上的人

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他不负责开车

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他负责知道车在怎么开

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长期冥想者的大脑扫描图告诉了我们一件

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非常惊人的事情

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他们的杏仁核并没有消失

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体积甚至只是稍微缩小了一点

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但是

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他们的前额叶对杏仁核的下行控制连接

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显著增强了

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翻译成人话就是

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他们的情绪还在

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自动反应还在

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但是情绪上面那个看见的眼睛

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变得非常清醒、非常有力量

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他们不是没有愤怒的人

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他们是愤怒升起来的时候

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那个看到愤怒升起来的觉知

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会在一秒之内跟上来的人

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这一秒

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就是特斯拉比喻里的那一秒

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觉醒和不觉醒的全部差别

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就在这一秒

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佛学里其实早就把这件事说透了

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只是很多人读错了方向

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你可能听过一句话

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叫灭受想定

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这是早期一些修行者追求的极致状态

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把感受和念头全部灭掉

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但是后来的大乘佛学

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特别是禅宗

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直接把这条路给推翻了

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禅宗说

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烦恼即菩提

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什么意思

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烦恼不是敌人

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烦恼是觉知的燃料

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没有情绪

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你拿什么练

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石头是没有情绪

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石头也从来不会觉醒

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六祖慧能说过一句特别有名的话 - 憎爱不关心

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长伸两脚卧

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这句话如果你按字面理解

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你会以为他是说要把爱恨都抹掉

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可是你仔细品

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他说的是不关心

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不是没有

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爱还在

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恨还在

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喜欢一样东西的那个欲望还在

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讨厌一个人的那个反感也还在

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只是

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他不再关心它们

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不再被它们拽着跑

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不再把自己等同于它们

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这就是佛学说的中道

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一边是压抑

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把情绪使劲按下去

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结果是内伤

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另一边是认同

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被情绪完全带走

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结果是外伤

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中道是什么

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中道就是你坐在驾驶位上

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睁着眼睛

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看着

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你既不把车砸烂

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也不把自己绑在方向盘上

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你让它开

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你看着它开

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禅宗公案里有一个故事特别能说明这件事

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有个老禅师在山上打坐

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有一次忽然听到山下村子里有一个母亲在大哭

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她的孩子死了

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老禅师听着听着

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自己也哭了

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他的弟子后来问他

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师父您修了几十年

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怎么还哭

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老禅师说了一句话 - 不哭

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是草木

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你品一下这句话

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不哭

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是草木

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真正的觉者

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不是变成石头和草木

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真正的觉者

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是一个心里什么都还有

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却不再被任何一个什么给钳住的人

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这里要说一件反直觉到会让很多人大吃一惊的事情

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觉醒的人

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情绪不仅没有消失

245
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反而变得比普通人更丰富、更鲜活、更细腻

246
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这听起来很离谱

247
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可是它有它的道理

248
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普通人的情绪其实是一团浆糊

249
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你愤怒的时候

250
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愤怒里同时掺着恐惧、掺着自尊受伤

251
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掺着对过去某件往事的怨气

252
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掺着对未来的焦虑

253
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还掺着你潜意识里一个特别不愿意承认的羞愧

254
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这一大坨东西黏在一起

255
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你分不清哪是哪

256
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你只能用一个粗糙的词去形容它 - 我今天很烦

257
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可是一个有觉知的人

258
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当情绪升起来的时候

259
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他像一个有经验的品酒师一样

260
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能够一层一层地分辨

261
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他知道

262
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最上面那一层

263
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是对方那句话触到了他自尊的某一个点

264
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再往下一层

265
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是他十年前被一个相似的情境伤害过

266
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今天这个情境按下了那颗种子的开关

267
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再往下一层

268
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他发现其实里面有八成是恐惧

269
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只有两成才是真正的愤怒

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你去感受一下这个区别

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一团浆糊的情绪

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和一颗一颗透明的露珠的情绪

273
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是完全不同的生命体验

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普通人活在灰蒙蒙的情绪雾霾里

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觉者活在清澈的情绪星空下

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你说他感受得少了

277
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他感受得比你精细一万倍

278
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只是他不再把任何一颗露珠

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当成自己的全部

280
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这就是为什么真正高阶的修行者

281
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反而常常特别温柔、特别幽默、特别能共情

282
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因为他知道你的愤怒底下藏着什么

283
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他知道你的骄傲底下藏着什么

284
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他也知道他自己的愤怒和骄傲底下藏着什么

285
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一个能看清自己的人

286
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才有资格真正看清别人

287
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回到那个观众的问题

288
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她其实还有一个更具体的延伸 - 那觉醒的人

289
00:10:05,366 --> 00:10:07,733
在关系里到底是什么样子

290
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他不会纠结、不会争吵、不会伤心、不会生气吗

291
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他是不是就像一个机器人

292
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机械地客客气气

293
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心里什么都不留

294
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我想把这件事说得再具体一点

295
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在任何一段关系的来往里

296
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当那个情绪激动的瞬间发生的时候

297
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一个有觉知的人

298
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会经历好几层

299
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第一层

300
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他会看到

301
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看到什么

302
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看到自己情绪的升起

303
00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:37,633
看到对方那句话像一个什么样的钩子勾住了自己

304
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哪一颗种子

305
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这个看到本身

306
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就已经让他不再完全等同于那股情绪了

307
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第二层

308
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他会有一定的克制

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请注意

310
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这个克制不是压抑

311
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不是咬着牙忍着不发作

312
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是他看到之后

313
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他有选择了

314
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他有一瞬间的间隙可以选

315
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这股情绪我要不要跟着走

316
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要走多远

317
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他不会被自动程序一脚踩到底

318
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第三层

319
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他会寻找办法

320
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让对方也能看到

321
00:11:09,066 --> 00:11:11,466
一段关系里只有一个人醒着

322
00:11:11,466 --> 00:11:13,766
这段关系的结构仍然是不稳定的

323
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所以觉者不会把觉知据为己有

324
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,233
他会用各种方式 - 有时候是一句话

325
00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:21,900
有时候是一个沉默

326
00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:25,633
有时候是一个提问 - 去帮对方也升起一丝觉知

327
00:11:26,466 --> 00:11:28,000
他不是在教对方

328
00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,933
他是在点对方

329
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因为他知道

330
00:11:30,833 --> 00:11:32,533
一对互相看见的人

331
00:11:32,566 --> 00:11:35,200
才能真正从关系的泥潭里一起走出来

332
00:11:36,066 --> 00:11:37,200
第四层

333
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如果对方暂时没办法升起觉知

334
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他会自己想办法改善这段关系

335
00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,866
他不会坐在那里等对方醒过来

336
00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:47,633
他会调整自己的方式

337
00:11:47,633 --> 00:11:49,500
调整沟通的节奏

338
00:11:49,566 --> 00:11:51,166
调整相处的距离

339
00:11:51,166 --> 00:11:53,966
甚至调整自己对这段关系的期待

340
00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,266
他始终是一个主动的改善者

341
00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:58,933
而不是一个被动的受害者

342
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第五层

343
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也是最难的那一层

344
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如果这段关系实在无法改善 - 对方根本不愿意醒

345
00:12:06,833 --> 00:12:10,000
他所有的努力都只是在加深双方的纠缠

346
00:12:10,766 --> 00:12:12,600
那觉知的人会选择回避

347
00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:14,266
不是逃避

348
00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:15,433
不是冷战

349
00:12:15,466 --> 00:12:16,600
而是清醒地退出

350
00:12:17,466 --> 00:12:18,200
他知道

351
00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,300
继续留在这里

352
00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:22,766
只会让双方那套自动化的程序一起恶化

353
00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,066
让双方的业力种子一起加重

354
00:12:26,633 --> 00:12:28,166
他宁可带着遗憾走

355
00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000
也不愿意让自己的觉知

356
00:12:30,033 --> 00:12:33,966
被一段注定崩坏的关系反向熏染成新的无明种子

357
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你看

358
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这五层里面

359
00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:37,833
没有一层是没有情绪

360
00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:40,166
每一层都有情绪在涌动

361
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,366
只是每一层里面

362
00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,300
驾驶位上都有一个醒着的人

363
00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:45,833
讲到这里

364
00:12:45,866 --> 00:12:49,100
我想问你一个可能会颠覆你整个修行想象的问题

365
00:12:49,966 --> 00:12:51,333
佛陀成道之后

366
00:12:51,366 --> 00:12:53,900
他到底还爱不爱他曾经的妻子

367
00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:55,200
耶输陀罗

368
00:12:55,333 --> 00:12:59,300
标准的鸡汤答案是 - 佛陀超越了世俗的爱

369
00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:00,533
他对众生的爱

370
00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:01,866
取代了对一个人的爱

371
00:13:02,566 --> 00:13:03,800
这个答案太廉价了

372
00:13:04,566 --> 00:13:08,200
廉价到像是在给佛陀涂上一层冷冰冰的金漆

373
00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:10,466
真实的历史画面是这样的

374
00:13:11,366 --> 00:13:13,300
佛陀成道之后的第六年

375
00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:16,000
他第一次回到迦毗罗卫城

376
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,433
回到那个他离开的家

377
00:13:18,666 --> 00:13:21,200
他的父亲净饭王出城迎接

378
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,933
他的养母抱着他哭

379
00:13:22,966 --> 00:13:25,733
他的儿子罗睺罗当时七岁

380
00:13:25,733 --> 00:13:28,000
第一次见到这个只听过名字的父亲

381
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,400
而他的妻子耶输陀罗 - 她没有出城

382
00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:33,433
她留在自己的房间里

383
00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:34,966
她说

384
00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,666
如果他心里还有我

385
00:13:36,666 --> 00:13:39,200
他会自己走上来找我

386
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,933
如果他心里没有我了

387
00:13:40,966 --> 00:13:42,566
我去见他又有什么意义

388
00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:44,600
佛陀真的上楼了

389
00:13:45,366 --> 00:13:48,133
他走进那个他曾经熟悉的房间

390
00:13:48,133 --> 00:13:49,366
站在耶输陀罗面前

391
00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:52,066
经典里的描述非常克制

392
00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:55,600
他们之间没有惊天动地的对话

393
00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,666
没有哭喊

394
00:13:56,700 --> 00:13:57,333
没有控诉

395
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,866
耶输陀罗跪在他脚前

396
00:14:00,966 --> 00:14:02,500
把眼泪落在他的袈裟上

397
00:14:03,266 --> 00:14:05,200
佛陀只是静静地站着

398
00:14:05,233 --> 00:14:06,633
允许那份情感发生

399
00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:08,466
没有压抑

400
00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:09,533
没有逃避

401
00:14:09,566 --> 00:14:10,566
没有装作没看见

402
00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:12,500
你告诉我

403
00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:14,100
这算不算情

404
00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,233
几年之后

405
00:14:15,266 --> 00:14:17,100
耶输陀罗自己也出家了

406
00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,633
再后来

407
00:14:18,633 --> 00:14:21,266
罗睺罗也成了他最年幼的弟子之一

408
00:14:22,333 --> 00:14:24,866
一个人能够把自己最亲近的人

409
00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:29,033
全部带上同一条解脱的道路 - 这不是没感情

410
00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:31,766
这是把感情从一种占有的形式

411
00:14:31,766 --> 00:14:35,266
转化成了一种更深、更大、更不执着的形式

412
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,666
他没有变成石头

413
00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:40,900
他变成了一条可以让所有人一起渡过去的船

414
00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,300
所以

415
00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,033
让我再回到那位观众的问题

416
00:14:45,033 --> 00:14:46,066
觉醒之后

417
00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:47,933
七情六欲还在吗

418
00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:48,766
还在

419
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,400
一个都不少

420
00:14:50,266 --> 00:14:51,700
只是从今天开始

421
00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:52,900
你知道你不是那辆车

422
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,800
你是驾驶位上那个终于睁眼的人

423
00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:58,133
愤怒还会升起

424
00:14:58,133 --> 00:14:59,833
只是你看着它升起

425
00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:01,800
然后看着它像潮水一样退回去

426
00:15:03,366 --> 00:15:04,966
喜欢还会发生

427
00:15:04,966 --> 00:15:08,200
只是你不再像溺水的人抓救命稻草一样去抓住它

428
00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:10,733
悲伤还会涌出

429
00:15:10,733 --> 00:15:12,933
只是你允许眼泪流下来

430
00:15:12,966 --> 00:15:16,533
而不需要在眼泪之外再加一层"我为什么这么脆弱"

431
00:15:16,666 --> 00:15:17,300
的自我攻击

432
00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:19,766
你甚至会发现

433
00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,433
你比以前更会爱人了

434
00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:24,733
因为你终于有能力

435
00:15:24,733 --> 00:15:27,233
不把对方卷进你自己的情绪漩涡里

436
00:15:28,033 --> 00:15:29,766
你第一次看得到对方

437
00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,300
因为你第一次看得到自己

438
00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,533
觉醒不是让你变少

439
00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:36,633
觉醒是让你第一次认识

440
00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:38,133
那个一直在看的那个东西

441
00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:40,600
那个看的东西

442
00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:42,033
就是你这辆车之外

443
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,433
你这堆情绪之外、你这具肉身之外

444
00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:46,700
一直在的那个存在

445
00:15:47,866 --> 00:15:50,533
它不需要你做任何事情才会出现

446
00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:51,366
它已经在这里

447
00:15:52,233 --> 00:15:53,866
它只是在等你某一天

448
00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:57,166
在一场争吵的正中央、在一次暴怒的巅峰

449
00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,566
在一滴眼泪即将落下的那一瞬间

450
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,033
忽然回过头来

451
00:16:02,066 --> 00:16:02,566
看见它

452
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:03,966
那一眼

453
00:16:03,966 --> 00:16:05,733
就是你接管方向盘的那一秒

454
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,500
那一秒之后

455
00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,100
你还是会继续生活

456
00:16:09,133 --> 00:16:10,233
继续恋爱

457
00:16:10,233 --> 00:16:11,033
继续愤怒

458
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:12,000
继续喜悦

459
00:16:12,633 --> 00:16:15,000
但是你知道了 - 驾驶位上

460
00:16:15,033 --> 00:16:15,866
有一个人醒着

461
00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:17,233
说到这里

462
00:16:17,266 --> 00:16:18,700
我非常想听听你们的想法

463
00:16:19,633 --> 00:16:21,900
你有没有在一次情绪激动的瞬间

464
00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:24,433
忽然从自己身体里跳出来一下

465
00:16:24,466 --> 00:16:28,233
发现自己正在愤怒或者正在难过的那个瞬间

466
00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:30,366
那个瞬间你是怎么处理的

467
00:16:30,366 --> 00:16:32,466
它有没有改变后来的结果

468
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,700
你愿意的话

469
00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:35,066
来评论区聊一聊

470
00:16:35,066 --> 00:16:35,966
我真的很好奇

471
00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:37,966
还有

472
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下一期如果要继续深入这个话题

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你最想听我拆哪一个方向

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是情绪背后的神经机制如何通过训练被改写

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还是佛学里的观受是苦到底在观什么

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或者是为什么越觉知的人反而情绪越丰富这件事背后

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更深的结构

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告诉我

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我们下一次一起走进去

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我是王利杰

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我们下期见