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Dragon Tree < Middle Theory >: Immortal

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It's not what you think.

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Those who think every morning that color is emptiness and emptiness is color

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How many people actually know what this empty word is talking about?

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I'm not talking about you

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tell the truth

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It's been misunderstood for 2,000 years.

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When most people hear it, it's completely empty.

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Or you call it nihilism.

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It doesn't make sense anyway

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Just lie down

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Or it's some kind of mystical experience

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Everything is one

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out of body

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Into some kind of white light

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But Nagasu wrote < Middle Theory >

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I'm not talking about these two kinds of emptiness.

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He made a very precise philosophical statement.

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And he proved it by pure logic.

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There is no mysticism.

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He uses a set of argumentation tools called imputation

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Take every philosophical position you can think of

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Existence, non-existence, existence and non-existence

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Neither exists nor does not exist

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One by one

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All proofs make no logical sense

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What is the level of difficulty in achieving this?

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It's like being alone.

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Mathematical proof of all human thought systems

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Are fundamentally flawed

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And then offered a way out

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Hello

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Hello.

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I am Wang Lijie

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This series brings together the core Buddhist scriptures one by one

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Take it apart in modern language

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Before we started from the Ahan Sutra and the Diamond Sutra

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All the way to the Heart Sutra

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Established the basic framework of dependent origin, prajna and emptiness

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Today we will look at Nagasu's < Middle Theory >

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About the life of Nagarjuna

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And why he appeared at that moment in history

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I talked about it specifically in the historical context series

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And it just goes by in one sentence: somewhere between the second and third centuries A.D.

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Mahayana Buddhism encountered a serious philosophical crisis

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Dragon tree appears

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Solved the crisis

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By the way, the philosophical foundation of the entire Mahayana Buddhism was rebuilt

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Today we only focus on one thing

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What exactly does this < Zhonglun > say?

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Let me give you a context.

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Let you understand why Nagarjuna wrote this book

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In previous issues, we talked about the Prajna system

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Talked about emptiness in 260 words

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He talked about the Diamond Sutra, which should be born without dwelling, and pointed out the direction of non-attachment

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The prajna system is very powerful

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But it has a side effect.

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It's just that someone started to go astray

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Which way do you go?

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After someone listens to emptiness

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Start to think

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Since everything is empty

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Then all morality is meaningless

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Karma is dead.

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What's the difference between doing good and doing bad?

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It's empty anyway

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Some people go to the other extreme

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Transforming emptiness into an experience

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Pursuit of a certain sense of nothingness, ethereal feeling

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I mistakenly thought that was liberation

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Nagasu writes < Zhonglun >

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It is necessary to completely correct these two deviations

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What he wants to prove is

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Emptiness is not anything you can describe

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Including nothingness, including nothing

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Emptiness is an exact logical proposition

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Not a realm

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It's not a feeling.

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Is a very specific analysis of the way things exist

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Now look at the opening chapter of < Zhongluo >

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Nagarjuna has a verse before the text begins

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Just these twenty-four words

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It came to be known as the path of the eight noes: neither birth nor destruction

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Unoften and constantly

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No come no go

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Can be said to be karma

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On the good destruction of all plays

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I preach to Buddha

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The first of all

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The second half is the cliché of the Buddha

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We skip

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The first four sentences are the core

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immortal

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Not often, constantly

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The first time you read this

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There is a high probability that this is a poem

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Is some kind of artistic expression

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But it's not poetry.

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It's an exact philosophical proposition.

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Four pairs of concepts

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Eight negatives

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Nagarjuna is in the entire < Middle Lecture >

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Are making concrete logical arguments for these eight negatives

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To understand what these eight negatives say

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We must first understand a core concept

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It's called the Self.

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It refers to the nature of things themselves

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It's inherently prescriptive.

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The core that it exists independently of any relationship or condition

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The root cause that makes it what it is and nothing else is.

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Our daily thinking

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They assume things have a nature of their own.

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You said this flower

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It presupposes that flowers have their own floral properties

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The essential requirement to make it a flower and nothing else

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You say this, I

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It presupposes that I have my own nature

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An eternity runs through all states

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The self-core independent of changes in the body and changes in the mind

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Nagarjuna said

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This self

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You can't find it anywhere in the universe.

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Notice that he's not saying that flowers don't exist

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It's not that you don't exist

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What does he mean?

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Your understanding of flowers and your way of being

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The understanding that postulates the Self

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Is wrong

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Now look at the pair who are neither born nor die

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We say a tree grows from a seed

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What does that presuppose?

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It presupposes that at some point the tree goes from nothing to something

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That is, produced

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But Nagarjuna began to analyze this life in the first product of < Zhongluo >

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So he says.

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Anything needs to be born

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There are only four possibilities: born from oneself

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Born of other things, born of self and other things

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Or born for no reason

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These four situations

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He proved it doesn't make sense one by one

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What does it mean to be born from oneself?

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The tree is born from the tree itself

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But if the tree is already there

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Does it still need to be born?

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It already exists.

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One more time

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And what's even more ridiculous is

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If a thing can give birth to itself from itself

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Then it should be able to live forever

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Because the living conditions have always been there

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Trees become countless trees

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Finally fill the universe

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Obviously not established

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For example, a tree grows from a seed

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Is this seed another existence with its own nature?

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Where did the seed itself come from?

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Going back is an endless chain

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Can't find the starting point

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If the seed has no self

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How can something that has no nature give rise to the nature of another?

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This logic doesn't hold either

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It's more complicated.

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But it brings in the first two questions

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Equals problem stacking

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To be born without a cause means to appear without any reason

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So anything can come out of thin air under any conditions.

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The world is completely messed up

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That's clearly not true.

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All four possibilities are blocked.

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And what does that mean?

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It's not that trees don't exist.

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I think we should be talking about this.

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What you think

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The process of going from what to what

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The event you named life

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When you really pursue it

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Can't find a consistent way to describe it

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The same logic applies to annihilation

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Therefore, it is called neither birth nor death

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Which brings me to the conservation of energy in modern physics.

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Energy is immortal

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They're just going from one form to another.

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A log burned

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We say it's gone.

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But it becomes heat, light, carbon dioxide, water vapor

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Those things are still there

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Just changed the form

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Disappear

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Did that really happen?

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What we do is we label transformation as vanishing.

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I don't see this pair often and constantly

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Chang means eternal

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Broken means to disappear completely, and then nothing is left.

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This is for continuity issues

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And it's one of the most common questions that we face when we think about ourselves.

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The you of today and the you of yesterday

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Is it the same you?

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If it is exactly the same

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Then you are immutable

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That is, often

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But that's clearly not right.

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Your cells are constantly being replaced

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Your mind is changing

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The self in your memory and the self in this moment

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And every day is subtly different.

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If not the same

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Every moment, an old you dies and a new you appears

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That is, broken

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But who is saving the memory?

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Who's to say I did this yesterday?

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Who is recognizing this body as mine?

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Nagarjuna said

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Constant and broken are two extremes

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Presupposes some kind of fixed self

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say often

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An invariant kernel is preset

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Preset something that really disappears

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It's all the concepts we posted

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Can't find a real foothold

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Have you looked at the photos from five years ago?

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Look at that person

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I felt like he was almost a stranger

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But you also know that you are the same person

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Where is the continuity?

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In memory

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In identity

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In that story you tell yourself

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These things are very real

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Also very useful

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But they're narrative entities.

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Not the existence of some fixed kernel

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Different or different, this pair

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It's about identity.

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Yesterday's glass of water and today's glass of water

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Is it the same glass of water?

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After you drink half of it

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Is the remaining half glass still the same glass of water?

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If you pour water into another cup

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Is it still the same glass of water?

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These questions sound like tongue twisters

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But what Nagarjuna wants to point out is that

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The judgment system that we use to define the boundaries of difference

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There is no stable foothold in itself

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The world is continuous.

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We put a grid on it with concepts.

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The things in the grid don't exist because of the grid.

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It becomes a self-sustaining entity

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Neither come nor go, this pair

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To analyze motion

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A moving object

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You say it goes from point A to point B

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Where was it during this time?

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On the way.

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Where is it on the road?

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You name any point

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It's just a momentary stop at that moment

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It's actually moving.

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The movement itself

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Where to start?

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Where is the moment of movement?

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Because once located

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It stops exercising

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Which brings me to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics.

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The position and momentum of a particle cannot be precisely measured simultaneously

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The moment you measure the location

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Momentum is uncertain

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The moment you measure momentum

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The location is uncertain.

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Nagarjuna predates quantum mechanics by nearly two thousand years

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He used conceptual analysis to reach a conclusion in a similar direction

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A conceptual framework for describing motion

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It's got inherent tension.

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OK

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Saying so much

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I want to stop here.

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Let me ask you a question.

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Nagarjuna uses these eight negatives

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Proving that birth and death are concept constructs

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Constancy is concept building.

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One difference is concept construction

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It comes and goes as concept building.

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And?

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What does this actually mean for us?

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The answer is what Nagarjuna calls emptiness.

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But what is emptiness?

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Emptiness is not that everything does not exist

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Emptiness means

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All the things you can describe with words and concepts.

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They're not self-sufficient.

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Leave all relationships and conditions still in place

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Everything exists in relationships

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Exists in conditions

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Water is wet

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But wetness is relative to our sensory system.

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For particles in the universe that don't have nervous systems

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Wet doesn't exist at all

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Water is liquid

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But it depends on temperature and air pressure

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Water turns to ice or steam.

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Flowers are red

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But what if your visual system only senses ultraviolet light?

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This flower may be a completely different color to you

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These existences

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It's a web of relationships and conditions.

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Left this net

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What is water?

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What are flowers?

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What is red?

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Can't stand alone at all

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Nagarjuna calls this dependent emptiness

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Dependent origin is the emergence of dependence on conditions

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Emptiness is the absence of self-nature

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The two are not contradictory

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It's two sides of the same coin.

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It is because there is no self

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So you can live by it.

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It is because of dependence

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So there is no self

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Here's a very important argument from Nagarjuna: if things have a nature

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The Self is unchanging.

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What is constant cannot be influenced by any conditions.

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Then this thing can't do anything

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Cannot be changed

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It can't grow.

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Can't practice

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Can't realize

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And the other way around.

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It is because there is no self

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Everything can change

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Practice is meaningful

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Enlightenment is possible

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Empty is not devaluation

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Is value added

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It means the world is open

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Not locked in by some immutable self

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Now I want to change the angle.

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Let you feel this more directly

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Have you ever had a moment like this?

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You have a very fixed judgment about somebody or something.

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That's how it is

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And then one day...

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That person did something that completely surprised you.

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Or maybe it went completely beyond your expectations.

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And you get confused.

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Not anger

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Not sadness

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It's the dizziness of the frame being broken.

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You stop in that dizziness and feel it carefully

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You will find that there is a sense of panic

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It's not about panic.

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It's panic at the sudden failure of one's own way of understanding

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This Moment

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You find yourself preset with a self.

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You think this person is like that in the first place

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How do you think this is supposed to be?

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That would have been

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It's the kernel you added yourself.

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What Nagarjuna wants to do is not to make you stop feeling this way

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It allows you to see clearly from an earlier time

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That one was originally added by you.

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It doesn't exist in the real world

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What happens when you see it clearly?

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It's not that you've become apathetic

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I don't care.

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It's the framework that supports you.

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That fixed concept of this person, this thing, this self

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There will be a strange loosening.

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After loosening

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Your connection to the world

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Will have a different texture

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Not so hard

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Don't get stuck as often

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Nagarjuna has a sentence in "Middle Lecture"

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I think it is the core expression of the whole book

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He said: The truth of all dharmas

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Heart line speech break

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law

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It's the way things really are.

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Reality

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Is how it really exists

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The mind is any activity you think about it

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Words are any expression you make of it

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Nagarjuna said

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The way things really exist

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Is beyond the reach of all thought and language

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It's not silencing you.

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This is saying

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Language and concepts are tools

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Very useful.

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It allows us to communicate.

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Capable of division of labor and cooperation

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Can build civilization

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But these tools have a fundamental limitation.

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It's the grid that they actually cut out.

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Is not equal to reality itself

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You can use tools.

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But don't get caught up in the grid of tools

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Think of the grid as the original boundary of things

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Before I made this video

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Try to find that boundary in your own meditation.

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Find something that I think should be

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And ask yourself this question.

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Where did this come from?

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Tried a few times

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Can find that derivation chain

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catch up to the end

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Discovery is some presupposition formed a long time ago

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It's never been questioned.

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It became a matter of course

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Nagarjuna's Argument Two Thousand Years Ago

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In this experience

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There is a strange landing sensation

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How about you?

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Is there something in your life?

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It's what you've long believed it should be

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But then you found out that it should be

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You actually added it yourself.

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What was that moment like?

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I especially want to see your story in the comment section.

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"The Middle Lecture" is an endless book

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Every time you open it, you can find something new inside.

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This issue is just an entrance

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Which angle do you most want us to dig deeper from next time?

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I am Wang Lijie

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See you next time.

