1 00:00:00,343 --> 00:00:02,021 Steve Jobs emptied out his home 2 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:03,755 and it had nothing to do with minimalism 3 00:00:03,903 --> 00:00:04,942 in nineteen eighty two 4 00:00:04,942 --> 00:00:07,916 a photographer walked into Jobs' home in California 5 00:00:08,022 --> 00:00:09,195 and took a photograph 6 00:00:09,583 --> 00:00:10,336 in that photo 7 00:00:10,542 --> 00:00:12,115 the living room is almost empty 8 00:00:12,223 --> 00:00:12,855 no sofa 9 00:00:13,102 --> 00:00:13,816 no coffee table 10 00:00:14,063 --> 00:00:15,195 and no TV cabinet 11 00:00:15,462 --> 00:00:18,236 a twenty seven year old Jobs sits cross legged on the floor 12 00:00:18,382 --> 00:00:20,756 beside him only a Tiffany lamp 13 00:00:20,862 --> 00:00:21,615 a stereo 14 00:00:21,902 --> 00:00:23,236 a few vinyl records 15 00:00:23,303 --> 00:00:24,015 a notebook 16 00:00:24,303 --> 00:00:25,396 and a cup of tea 17 00:00:25,742 --> 00:00:28,396 many years later he talked about this photo himself 18 00:00:28,463 --> 00:00:29,635 and he said it very plainly 19 00:00:29,943 --> 00:00:30,216 he said 20 00:00:30,623 --> 00:00:32,676 that was a very typical time in my life 21 00:00:32,703 --> 00:00:33,756 I was living alone 22 00:00:34,622 --> 00:00:38,515 all you need is a cup of tea a lamp and a stereo 23 00:00:38,542 --> 00:00:40,515 and that was all I had back then 24 00:00:40,862 --> 00:00:43,142 that photo has been shared countless times since 25 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:45,396 and the caption is almost always the same line 26 00:00:45,503 --> 00:00:45,695 look 27 00:00:46,063 --> 00:00:47,195 this is what minimalism means 28 00:00:48,186 --> 00:00:49,098 but the same man 29 00:00:49,426 --> 00:00:50,679 has another story 30 00:00:51,146 --> 00:00:52,018 after he got married 31 00:00:52,426 --> 00:00:54,119 the family needed to buy a washing machine 32 00:00:54,625 --> 00:00:56,319 he and his wife sat at the dinner table 33 00:00:56,345 --> 00:00:58,558 and discussed this washing machine every night 34 00:00:58,746 --> 00:01:00,399 for about two weeks 35 00:01:00,786 --> 00:01:02,518 what they debated was not the price 36 00:01:02,585 --> 00:01:05,078 it was why European machines wash more slowly 37 00:01:05,105 --> 00:01:05,978 but use less water 38 00:01:06,225 --> 00:01:07,599 and are gentler on clothes 39 00:01:07,945 --> 00:01:10,879 in the end they bought a German Miele 40 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:12,558 then there is the sofa 41 00:01:12,866 --> 00:01:14,638 his wife once said something 42 00:01:14,786 --> 00:01:17,198 that left me staring at the page for a long time 43 00:01:17,626 --> 00:01:17,978 she said 44 00:01:18,385 --> 00:01:19,984 when it came to furniture 45 00:01:19,986 --> 00:01:22,319 we spent eight years talking about it in theory 46 00:01:22,706 --> 00:01:25,198 we spent a lot of time asking ourselves one question 47 00:01:25,506 --> 00:01:28,159 what is a sofa actually for 48 00:01:28,792 --> 00:01:29,591 eight years 49 00:01:30,426 --> 00:01:31,019 so you see 50 00:01:31,346 --> 00:01:32,825 that empty living room 51 00:01:32,825 --> 00:01:35,239 may not have been about him letting anything go at all 52 00:01:35,441 --> 00:01:35,795 hello 53 00:01:36,081 --> 00:01:36,554 everyone 54 00:01:36,881 --> 00:01:37,935 I am Leo Wang 55 00:01:38,361 --> 00:01:40,575 a few days ago I got a letter from a friend 56 00:01:40,962 --> 00:01:43,855 he said he had followed my site through two full series 57 00:01:43,881 --> 00:01:44,974 and really enjoyed them 58 00:01:45,202 --> 00:01:46,655 then he asked me a question 59 00:01:47,122 --> 00:01:49,000 he wanted me to take a Buddhist angle 60 00:01:49,001 --> 00:01:51,175 and talk about the book Minimalism 61 00:01:51,482 --> 00:01:54,215 he also raised two things he could never figure out 62 00:01:54,730 --> 00:01:57,329 why do people like Jobs after practicing Zen 63 00:01:57,329 --> 00:01:58,802 end up championing minimalism 64 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:02,282 and why did this wind blow so hard in the West and in Japan 65 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:07,463 he said he felt it had something to do with the default mode network in the brain 66 00:02:07,529 --> 00:02:08,982 but he could not quite explain it 67 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:11,062 I read that letter twice 68 00:02:11,290 --> 00:02:12,602 I think he asked a very good question 69 00:02:13,049 --> 00:02:14,008 and what makes it good is this 70 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:16,143 these are actually three different things 71 00:02:16,209 --> 00:02:18,822 that we habitually tie together 72 00:02:19,010 --> 00:02:21,328 today I want to take these three ropes 73 00:02:21,329 --> 00:02:22,903 and untie them one by one 74 00:02:23,816 --> 00:02:25,229 let us start with the book itself 75 00:02:25,776 --> 00:02:28,109 Minimalism was written by two Americans 76 00:02:28,295 --> 00:02:30,869 one is Joshua Fields Millburn 77 00:02:31,056 --> 00:02:33,508 the other is Ryan Nicodemus 78 00:02:33,776 --> 00:02:34,808 they are not philosophers 79 00:02:35,056 --> 00:02:36,188 and they are not monks 80 00:02:36,336 --> 00:02:39,229 they were two young men working at a telecom company 81 00:02:39,615 --> 00:02:41,628 Millburn was a director of operations 82 00:02:41,776 --> 00:02:44,229 overseeing a hundred and fifty retail stores 83 00:02:44,496 --> 00:02:45,248 in twenty eleven 84 00:02:45,536 --> 00:02:47,134 the company handed him an assignment 85 00:02:47,135 --> 00:02:48,588 to draw up a plan 86 00:02:48,656 --> 00:02:49,528 to close eight stores 87 00:02:49,855 --> 00:02:51,269 and lay off forty one people 88 00:02:51,536 --> 00:02:52,769 he finished the plan 89 00:02:53,015 --> 00:02:54,588 and then he quit 90 00:02:54,895 --> 00:02:57,669 Nicodemus worked in sales and marketing 91 00:02:57,816 --> 00:02:58,369 that same year 92 00:02:58,615 --> 00:03:00,229 he was laid off himself 93 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:01,968 the two of them left their jobs 94 00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:03,229 and wrote a book 95 00:03:03,415 --> 00:03:04,769 the book is called Minimalism 96 00:03:05,135 --> 00:03:07,709 and the subtitle is live a meaningful life 97 00:03:08,254 --> 00:03:09,207 there is one thing in the book 98 00:03:09,455 --> 00:03:10,908 that I think is written really well 99 00:03:11,015 --> 00:03:13,068 they call it the packing party 100 00:03:13,575 --> 00:03:15,228 what Nicodemus did was this 101 00:03:15,335 --> 00:03:16,827 he took everything in his home 102 00:03:17,055 --> 00:03:18,587 and packed it all into boxes 103 00:03:18,974 --> 00:03:19,827 everything 104 00:03:20,214 --> 00:03:22,927 clothes pots and pans towels appliances 105 00:03:23,254 --> 00:03:26,508 the TV picture frames art toiletries 106 00:03:26,575 --> 00:03:27,908 even the furniture went in 107 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:30,087 once it was packed he just went on living 108 00:03:30,534 --> 00:03:31,373 whatever he needed 109 00:03:31,374 --> 00:03:33,468 he would unpack from a box 110 00:03:33,854 --> 00:03:34,848 three weeks later 111 00:03:35,055 --> 00:03:36,188 he counted 112 00:03:36,455 --> 00:03:39,333 eighty percent of his things were still sealed in the boxes 113 00:03:39,335 --> 00:03:41,388 never opened once 114 00:03:41,694 --> 00:03:42,008 he said 115 00:03:42,455 --> 00:03:43,688 they just sat there 116 00:03:43,934 --> 00:03:44,987 and nobody touched them 117 00:03:45,991 --> 00:03:48,724 I think the value of this experiment is real 118 00:03:49,111 --> 00:03:50,965 it does something very plain 119 00:03:51,271 --> 00:03:54,404 it lets a person see what they own for the first time 120 00:03:54,912 --> 00:03:56,805 normally we cannot see it 121 00:03:57,072 --> 00:03:58,991 leave an object in your home for three years 122 00:03:58,991 --> 00:04:00,324 and it becomes background 123 00:04:00,391 --> 00:04:01,965 it becomes part of the wall 124 00:04:02,271 --> 00:04:04,245 you stop noticing that it exists 125 00:04:04,352 --> 00:04:06,724 so you never ask why it is there 126 00:04:07,032 --> 00:04:08,444 what the packing party does 127 00:04:08,472 --> 00:04:11,004 is turn the background back into foreground 128 00:04:11,312 --> 00:04:13,805 this move is familiar in Buddhism too 129 00:04:14,192 --> 00:04:14,664 seeing 130 00:04:14,991 --> 00:04:16,284 is always the first step 131 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,153 so the book deserves credit 132 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:20,572 and I do not want to erase that 133 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:21,473 but next 134 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,572 I want to talk about where it stops 135 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,572 notice the subtitle of the book 136 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:27,413 live a meaningful life 137 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,113 the structure is this 138 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:31,252 subtraction is the means 139 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,613 a meaningful life is the end 140 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:36,173 the first time I felt something was off 141 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:39,132 was when I saw a number going around in minimalist circles 142 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,533 someone counted all their possessions down to a hundred items 143 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:44,932 someone else got to two hundred and eighty eight 144 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,692 and then they posted the number online 145 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,452 when I saw that number 146 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:50,892 something in me skipped 147 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,012 because counting down to two hundred and eighty eight things 148 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:57,293 and counting your savings up to eight figures 149 00:04:57,319 --> 00:04:59,012 run on the same counter 150 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:00,918 the needle just points the other way 151 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,132 but the machine itself has not changed at all 152 00:05:03,898 --> 00:05:05,050 what is this machine 153 00:05:05,417 --> 00:05:06,790 Buddhism has a name for it 154 00:05:06,898 --> 00:05:08,670 but let me hold off on the name 155 00:05:08,937 --> 00:05:10,710 you have probably had moments like this 156 00:05:10,898 --> 00:05:11,970 you changed jobs 157 00:05:12,338 --> 00:05:13,631 you changed cities 158 00:05:13,698 --> 00:05:14,991 you changed relationships 159 00:05:15,218 --> 00:05:16,991 you thought you were swapping out the problem 160 00:05:17,297 --> 00:05:18,790 six months later you notice 161 00:05:18,898 --> 00:05:21,230 that familiar stifled feeling is back 162 00:05:21,258 --> 00:05:23,230 just wearing new clothes 163 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:24,751 what you changed was the circumstance 164 00:05:24,977 --> 00:05:27,951 what you did not change is the mind that clings to changing 165 00:05:28,338 --> 00:05:30,910 Buddhism calls this mind self attachment 166 00:05:31,538 --> 00:05:36,016 and the machine that runs nonstop labeling everything as mine 167 00:05:36,018 --> 00:05:37,310 is called the manas consciousness 168 00:05:37,538 --> 00:05:39,191 it has only one job 169 00:05:39,257 --> 00:05:41,031 to keep confirming who I am 170 00:05:41,338 --> 00:05:42,410 whatever material you feed it 171 00:05:42,497 --> 00:05:43,711 it can process 172 00:05:43,898 --> 00:05:45,656 give it a house and a car 173 00:05:45,658 --> 00:05:47,550 and it manufactures an I am successful 174 00:05:47,697 --> 00:05:49,297 give it a hundred possessions 175 00:05:49,297 --> 00:05:51,391 and it manufactures an I am awake 176 00:05:51,578 --> 00:05:52,531 it does not care about direction 177 00:05:52,778 --> 00:05:54,511 it only cares about having work to do 178 00:05:55,225 --> 00:05:57,384 so someone empties out their home 179 00:05:57,386 --> 00:05:59,625 and then quietly starts to feel 180 00:05:59,625 --> 00:06:02,358 that they live more clearly than the neighbor downstairs 181 00:06:02,745 --> 00:06:03,259 in that moment 182 00:06:03,625 --> 00:06:05,144 the distance between him and letting go 183 00:06:05,146 --> 00:06:07,559 is the same as before he emptied anything 184 00:06:08,346 --> 00:06:09,879 maybe even a little farther 185 00:06:10,225 --> 00:06:12,519 because the old mind that wanted more 186 00:06:12,545 --> 00:06:14,678 was at least out in the open 187 00:06:15,185 --> 00:06:16,019 this new one 188 00:06:16,305 --> 00:06:17,904 has put on plain clothes 189 00:06:17,906 --> 00:06:20,238 the book stops at owning less 190 00:06:20,745 --> 00:06:23,199 Buddhism takes one more step 191 00:06:23,346 --> 00:06:26,358 to seeing clearly why you want 192 00:06:26,865 --> 00:06:28,338 these two look alike 193 00:06:28,625 --> 00:06:29,999 but they are not the same thing 194 00:06:30,711 --> 00:06:32,803 now let us come back to Jobs 195 00:06:33,231 --> 00:06:35,149 his relationship with Zen was real 196 00:06:35,151 --> 00:06:36,644 it was not packaging 197 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:39,524 around nineteen seventy four or seventy five 198 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:43,004 he was sitting at a Zen center in Los Altos California 199 00:06:43,391 --> 00:06:46,243 the priest there was Kobun Chino Otogawa 200 00:06:46,471 --> 00:06:47,723 from Niigata Japan 201 00:06:47,831 --> 00:06:48,904 a Soto Zen monk 202 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:50,483 ordained at twelve 203 00:06:50,510 --> 00:06:52,844 fully trained at Eiheiji 204 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:54,283 and later he went to America 205 00:06:54,510 --> 00:06:56,884 that relationship lasted about twenty years 206 00:06:57,070 --> 00:06:59,204 in nineteen ninety one Jobs got married 207 00:06:59,310 --> 00:07:01,084 the wedding was held in Yosemite 208 00:07:01,151 --> 00:07:03,084 only about fifty people came 209 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:05,404 and Kobun officiated 210 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:06,223 he struck the bell 211 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:07,283 and burned incense 212 00:07:08,310 --> 00:07:10,230 later Jobs left Apple 213 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:12,283 and founded another computer company 214 00:07:12,591 --> 00:07:13,589 for several years 215 00:07:13,591 --> 00:07:15,884 Kobun was that company's spiritual advisor 216 00:07:16,110 --> 00:07:18,363 they kept coming back to one question 217 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:21,230 how can a person run a business 218 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:23,363 and still keep a spiritual life 219 00:07:23,711 --> 00:07:25,324 he even seriously considered 220 00:07:25,351 --> 00:07:27,324 ordaining at Eiheiji in Japan 221 00:07:27,791 --> 00:07:29,483 and it was Kobun who talked him out of it 222 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:30,543 Kobun told him 223 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:32,509 you can run a business 224 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:33,884 and keep your practice at the same time 225 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:37,343 he always kept a book called Zen Mind Beginner's Mind close by 226 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:39,243 written by Shunryu Suzuki 227 00:07:39,550 --> 00:07:41,243 an early roommate remembered 228 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:43,363 that this was Steve's favorite 229 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:44,983 so this man 230 00:07:45,271 --> 00:07:46,923 really did practice Zen 231 00:07:47,031 --> 00:07:49,803 and really did live in an empty house 232 00:07:50,801 --> 00:07:54,054 and so everyone drew the obvious conclusion 233 00:07:54,482 --> 00:07:56,135 Zen made him a minimalist 234 00:07:56,602 --> 00:07:59,335 but I want you to look again at that washing machine 235 00:07:59,402 --> 00:08:00,974 and at those eight years of sofa talk 236 00:08:01,241 --> 00:08:03,034 Jobs' father was a craftsman 237 00:08:03,482 --> 00:08:04,200 his adoptive father 238 00:08:04,201 --> 00:08:05,095 named Paul 239 00:08:05,561 --> 00:08:07,200 he taught Jobs one line 240 00:08:07,201 --> 00:08:08,854 that Jobs repeated his whole life 241 00:08:09,042 --> 00:08:09,395 he said 242 00:08:09,761 --> 00:08:11,054 when you build a fence 243 00:08:11,082 --> 00:08:12,775 nobody will see the back 244 00:08:12,881 --> 00:08:15,695 but you still have to make it as good as the front 245 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:17,515 later when Jobs was building computers 246 00:08:17,842 --> 00:08:19,054 his engineers told him 247 00:08:19,121 --> 00:08:21,041 the circuit board goes inside the case 248 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:22,195 users will never see it 249 00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:23,895 so it does not matter how it looks 250 00:08:24,162 --> 00:08:25,054 he disagreed 251 00:08:25,402 --> 00:08:26,195 his exact words were 252 00:08:26,441 --> 00:08:28,441 I want it to be as beautiful as possible 253 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:30,494 even if it is inside the box 254 00:08:31,402 --> 00:08:32,481 a good carpenter 255 00:08:32,482 --> 00:08:35,200 would not use a cheap piece of wood on the back of a cabinet 256 00:08:35,201 --> 00:08:36,934 just because nobody will see it 257 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:39,483 put these two things side by side 258 00:08:39,591 --> 00:08:41,644 and the mystery of the empty house dissolves 259 00:08:42,111 --> 00:08:43,323 he did not want less 260 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:45,684 he wanted every single piece to be right 261 00:08:46,231 --> 00:08:48,323 he could not find the right sofa 262 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:50,284 so he went eight years without one 263 00:08:50,631 --> 00:08:52,764 he could not pick the right washing machine 264 00:08:52,991 --> 00:08:56,123 so the family debated it at the dinner table for two weeks 265 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:58,684 his home was empty 266 00:08:58,751 --> 00:09:00,924 not because he had no attachment to objects 267 00:09:01,070 --> 00:09:05,243 but precisely because his standards for objects were almost punishing 268 00:09:05,871 --> 00:09:06,064 emptiness 269 00:09:06,471 --> 00:09:08,723 was a byproduct of those extreme standards 270 00:09:08,831 --> 00:09:10,644 not a fruit of his practice 271 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:14,564 this is the line I most want to draw clearly for you today 272 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:15,384 less 273 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:17,024 can come from letting go 274 00:09:17,471 --> 00:09:19,044 or it can come from being picky 275 00:09:19,871 --> 00:09:20,583 from the outside 276 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:22,924 the two empty rooms look identical 277 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:23,703 from the inside 278 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:25,390 one is a hand opening 279 00:09:25,391 --> 00:09:27,123 the other is a hand gripping tighter 280 00:09:27,503 --> 00:09:28,337 there is one more thing 281 00:09:28,784 --> 00:09:30,717 and saying it may spoil the mood 282 00:09:30,824 --> 00:09:32,237 but I think it should be said 283 00:09:32,503 --> 00:09:34,517 during those very years of sitting practice 284 00:09:34,544 --> 00:09:37,556 he routinely parked in handicapped spaces 285 00:09:37,824 --> 00:09:40,137 an Apple executive once remarked 286 00:09:40,503 --> 00:09:40,997 saying 287 00:09:41,103 --> 00:09:42,276 I never knew 288 00:09:42,344 --> 00:09:45,837 that those spots were reserved for the emotionally handicapped 289 00:09:46,103 --> 00:09:48,757 in nineteen seventy eight his daughter Lisa was born 290 00:09:48,983 --> 00:09:50,357 he denied it for a long time 291 00:09:50,503 --> 00:09:53,676 the paternity test came back at ninety four point four one percent 292 00:09:53,824 --> 00:09:54,997 and he still argued 293 00:09:55,064 --> 00:09:57,463 claiming twenty eight percent of the men in America 294 00:09:57,464 --> 00:09:59,357 could be the child's father 295 00:09:59,584 --> 00:10:01,717 I am not saying this to put him on trial 296 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:03,676 he was a remarkable man 297 00:10:03,743 --> 00:10:06,556 he changed the thing every one of us holds in our hand today 298 00:10:07,064 --> 00:10:09,597 I say it only to point out a fact 299 00:10:09,983 --> 00:10:10,896 twenty years of Zen practice 300 00:10:11,223 --> 00:10:12,556 and living in an empty house 301 00:10:12,584 --> 00:10:16,916 neither one automatically produced basic respect for the people around him 302 00:10:17,771 --> 00:10:20,305 there is a tech writer named Silberman 303 00:10:20,411 --> 00:10:21,690 who once made a comment 304 00:10:21,691 --> 00:10:22,704 that I think is exactly right 305 00:10:22,978 --> 00:10:23,777 he said 306 00:10:23,852 --> 00:10:26,665 Jobs skipped the most central teaching in Buddhism 307 00:10:26,852 --> 00:10:28,504 toward every person around you 308 00:10:28,571 --> 00:10:30,210 even the ones you consider enemies 309 00:10:30,212 --> 00:10:32,025 keep a basic respect 310 00:10:32,651 --> 00:10:34,145 practice is not tidying up 311 00:10:34,531 --> 00:10:35,204 the emptiness of a room 312 00:10:35,612 --> 00:10:36,624 and the emptiness of a mind 313 00:10:36,771 --> 00:10:38,210 the distance between them 314 00:10:38,212 --> 00:10:40,344 may be far greater than we imagine 315 00:10:41,065 --> 00:10:41,258 alright 316 00:10:41,744 --> 00:10:43,957 now to my friend's second question 317 00:10:44,784 --> 00:10:47,998 why did this wind blow so hard in Japan and the West 318 00:10:48,504 --> 00:10:49,337 my view is 319 00:10:49,664 --> 00:10:51,278 these are actually two different winds 320 00:10:51,544 --> 00:10:52,998 blowing in completely different directions 321 00:10:53,225 --> 00:10:54,297 we are just standing too far away 322 00:10:54,544 --> 00:10:55,557 and we see them as one 323 00:10:56,144 --> 00:10:57,118 let us start with Japan 324 00:10:57,504 --> 00:10:59,437 there is a widely repeated claim 325 00:10:59,705 --> 00:11:04,037 that the twenty eleven Tohoku earthquake made Japanese people start throwing things away 326 00:11:04,305 --> 00:11:05,917 and that is where danshari came from 327 00:11:06,305 --> 00:11:07,778 the story sounds tidy 328 00:11:08,105 --> 00:11:09,677 but the timeline does not fit 329 00:11:10,144 --> 00:11:12,837 Hideko Yamashita's book on danshari 330 00:11:12,904 --> 00:11:14,797 came out in two thousand nine 331 00:11:14,985 --> 00:11:18,518 and by twenty ten it was already a buzzword finalist in Japan 332 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:21,158 the earthquake was in March twenty eleven 333 00:11:22,065 --> 00:11:22,738 which means 334 00:11:23,105 --> 00:11:24,557 danshari took off 335 00:11:24,585 --> 00:11:26,518 a full two years before the quake 336 00:11:27,091 --> 00:11:28,465 I had the literature searched 337 00:11:28,492 --> 00:11:30,730 and found no study 338 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:34,744 showing a causal link between the earthquake and the trend 339 00:11:35,372 --> 00:11:37,185 so the more accurate way to put it 340 00:11:37,252 --> 00:11:39,224 is that the earthquake was a catalyst 341 00:11:39,331 --> 00:11:40,425 not a cause 342 00:11:41,211 --> 00:11:44,144 what is interesting is the reason Fumio Sasaki gives 343 00:11:44,252 --> 00:11:45,344 it is very practical 344 00:11:45,851 --> 00:11:46,205 he said 345 00:11:46,612 --> 00:11:48,144 of the people injured in the quake 346 00:11:48,211 --> 00:11:53,024 thirty to fifty percent were hit by things toppling or falling 347 00:11:53,652 --> 00:11:54,884 that is his own claim 348 00:11:55,132 --> 00:11:56,384 not a statistic 349 00:11:56,772 --> 00:11:58,124 but you can hear the logic 350 00:11:58,571 --> 00:11:59,425 in Japan 351 00:11:59,532 --> 00:12:02,585 owning less is first of all a safety issue 352 00:12:02,991 --> 00:12:05,364 and the real foundation of this Japanese wind 353 00:12:05,512 --> 00:12:07,605 I think lies much earlier 354 00:12:07,991 --> 00:12:09,284 in the tea room 355 00:12:09,752 --> 00:12:10,585 one tea room 356 00:12:11,032 --> 00:12:11,585 four and a half tatami mats 357 00:12:12,071 --> 00:12:13,325 one scroll on the wall 358 00:12:13,432 --> 00:12:14,305 one arrangement of flowers on the floor 359 00:12:14,831 --> 00:12:16,205 and nothing else 360 00:12:16,351 --> 00:12:18,325 your first feeling walking in is 361 00:12:18,432 --> 00:12:19,884 that a lot is missing here 362 00:12:20,471 --> 00:12:22,485 but people in the tea ceremony do not see it that way 363 00:12:22,831 --> 00:12:23,911 what they see is 364 00:12:23,912 --> 00:12:26,524 that the blank space itself is also an object 365 00:12:27,191 --> 00:12:28,845 negative space is not a failure to place something 366 00:12:29,191 --> 00:12:31,004 negative space is placing an emptiness 367 00:12:31,591 --> 00:12:32,924 this is an aesthetic 368 00:12:33,191 --> 00:12:36,965 the ability to treat absence itself as content 369 00:12:37,351 --> 00:12:39,065 and that is not the same as saying I want to cut my craving for things 370 00:12:39,432 --> 00:12:40,445 those are two different matters 371 00:12:41,332 --> 00:12:42,745 now the Western wind 372 00:12:43,172 --> 00:12:44,505 the timeline is clear 373 00:12:44,932 --> 00:12:46,505 two thousand eight the financial crisis 374 00:12:46,932 --> 00:12:49,505 twenty ten those two men started a blog 375 00:12:49,973 --> 00:12:51,946 twenty eleven they quit their jobs 376 00:12:52,493 --> 00:12:55,946 twenty fourteen Marie Kondo's book came out in English 377 00:12:56,412 --> 00:12:59,865 twenty sixteen the documentary called Minimalism went online 378 00:13:00,452 --> 00:13:01,931 after a great recession 379 00:13:01,932 --> 00:13:04,186 people start to doubt the whole business of owning 380 00:13:04,292 --> 00:13:05,585 and that is only natural 381 00:13:05,983 --> 00:13:07,636 but there is one finding here 382 00:13:07,703 --> 00:13:10,156 that I think the friend who wrote to me will enjoy 383 00:13:10,422 --> 00:13:13,595 there is a scholar named Currid-Halkett 384 00:13:13,782 --> 00:13:16,142 in twenty seventeen she proposed a concept 385 00:13:16,142 --> 00:13:17,555 called the aspirational class 386 00:13:17,782 --> 00:13:18,136 she says 387 00:13:18,463 --> 00:13:20,116 today's highly educated group 388 00:13:20,142 --> 00:13:24,156 no longer marks itself with big houses and luxury cars 389 00:13:24,343 --> 00:13:26,276 they have turned to another kind of consumption 390 00:13:26,422 --> 00:13:28,715 she calls it inconspicuous consumption 391 00:13:29,063 --> 00:13:29,975 spent on education 392 00:13:30,343 --> 00:13:31,916 spent on organic food 393 00:13:31,943 --> 00:13:32,896 spent on yoga 394 00:13:33,262 --> 00:13:34,996 spent on which podcasts you listen to 395 00:13:35,262 --> 00:13:37,475 she has one very sharp line 396 00:13:37,628 --> 00:13:38,429 she says 397 00:13:38,502 --> 00:13:42,516 a two dollar heirloom tomato from the farmers market 398 00:13:42,743 --> 00:13:44,061 carries more symbolic weight 399 00:13:44,063 --> 00:13:46,435 than a white Range Rover 400 00:13:46,990 --> 00:13:48,043 in twenty twenty two 401 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:51,083 a study came out in the Journal of Consumer Research 402 00:13:51,309 --> 00:13:53,203 two scholars built a scale 403 00:13:53,230 --> 00:13:55,362 to measure how minimalist a person is 404 00:13:55,589 --> 00:13:58,323 the data showed a weak but stable correlation 405 00:13:58,469 --> 00:13:59,988 people from wealthier childhoods 406 00:13:59,990 --> 00:14:02,122 scored slightly higher on minimalism 407 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:03,583 the authors themselves were careful 408 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:05,522 and only ventured a guess 409 00:14:05,630 --> 00:14:07,583 that material abundance may come first 410 00:14:07,870 --> 00:14:08,923 and minimalism after 411 00:14:09,150 --> 00:14:10,828 there is another scholar named Meissner 412 00:14:10,829 --> 00:14:12,722 who wrote a line in twenty nineteen 413 00:14:12,789 --> 00:14:15,722 that I want to use as a footnote for this episode 414 00:14:15,856 --> 00:14:16,655 he said 415 00:14:16,750 --> 00:14:20,323 the lifestyle minimalism narrative is self contradictory 416 00:14:20,350 --> 00:14:22,828 it resists the culture of growth 417 00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:24,522 while feeding that culture at the same time 418 00:14:25,309 --> 00:14:28,482 I also saw an American writer put it even more painfully 419 00:14:28,589 --> 00:14:28,943 she said 420 00:14:29,429 --> 00:14:31,722 for Americans who are struggling 421 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:34,602 living with less is an economic necessity 422 00:14:34,669 --> 00:14:36,722 not a lifestyle choice 423 00:14:37,576 --> 00:14:39,469 put these lines together 424 00:14:39,537 --> 00:14:41,710 and the Western wind becomes clear 425 00:14:42,096 --> 00:14:43,509 part of it is sincere 426 00:14:43,576 --> 00:14:45,389 a real reckoning with overconsumption 427 00:14:45,576 --> 00:14:47,389 and I fully grant that 428 00:14:47,737 --> 00:14:49,469 but there is another part 429 00:14:49,897 --> 00:14:51,310 the content of the showing off has changed 430 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:53,749 it used to be look what I have 431 00:14:54,017 --> 00:14:56,550 now it is look what I do not need 432 00:14:57,056 --> 00:14:58,830 the first is greed out in the open 433 00:14:59,296 --> 00:15:01,830 the second is greed in plain clothes 434 00:15:02,377 --> 00:15:05,389 I am not saying everyone who practices minimalism is showing off 435 00:15:05,737 --> 00:15:06,550 I am saying 436 00:15:06,576 --> 00:15:10,190 that machine does not stop just because you switched lanes 437 00:15:10,497 --> 00:15:12,109 it switches lanes right along with you 438 00:15:12,894 --> 00:15:13,287 finally 439 00:15:13,614 --> 00:15:15,748 the thing my friend cared about most 440 00:15:15,855 --> 00:15:17,268 the default mode network 441 00:15:17,654 --> 00:15:18,707 here is the conclusion first 442 00:15:19,095 --> 00:15:21,108 his intuition points the right way 443 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,028 but a link is missing in the middle 444 00:15:23,294 --> 00:15:25,947 and that link is exactly the crucial one 445 00:15:26,494 --> 00:15:28,587 there is a system in our brain 446 00:15:28,774 --> 00:15:31,587 and when you are doing nothing at all just spacing out 447 00:15:31,654 --> 00:15:32,908 it is at its busiest 448 00:15:33,374 --> 00:15:34,287 what is it busy with 449 00:15:34,855 --> 00:15:37,148 it is telling a story about me 450 00:15:37,494 --> 00:15:38,488 how I used to be 451 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:40,427 what I should do next 452 00:15:40,614 --> 00:15:42,988 what did that person really mean just now 453 00:15:43,215 --> 00:15:44,748 does he look down on me 454 00:15:45,134 --> 00:15:45,847 this system 455 00:15:46,175 --> 00:15:48,053 was given a name by scientists 456 00:15:48,055 --> 00:15:49,947 the default mode network 457 00:15:50,335 --> 00:15:52,854 we have covered this name several times on this channel 458 00:15:52,855 --> 00:15:54,228 so I will not repeat it today 459 00:15:54,935 --> 00:15:56,707 what I want to talk about is its limits 460 00:15:57,694 --> 00:15:59,707 I had the literature searched thoroughly 461 00:16:00,095 --> 00:16:01,048 and as of today 462 00:16:01,414 --> 00:16:03,107 there is not a single study 463 00:16:03,174 --> 00:16:05,707 that has directly tested whether emptying a room 464 00:16:05,774 --> 00:16:08,508 changes activity in the default mode network 465 00:16:08,894 --> 00:16:10,028 not one 466 00:16:10,294 --> 00:16:13,947 the articles online linking minimalism to this brain network 467 00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:15,548 are all inference 468 00:16:15,694 --> 00:16:18,107 not one can produce an original study 469 00:16:18,615 --> 00:16:20,548 I am not saying this to be a killjoy 470 00:16:20,894 --> 00:16:21,768 in fact I think 471 00:16:21,975 --> 00:16:23,587 once you take it this far 472 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:25,308 things finally get interesting 473 00:16:25,735 --> 00:16:28,014 because the evidence we actually have 474 00:16:28,015 --> 00:16:29,227 is two other things 475 00:16:29,671 --> 00:16:30,470 the first 476 00:16:30,604 --> 00:16:33,297 is the twenty eleven study from Brewer's team 477 00:16:33,805 --> 00:16:34,724 they found 478 00:16:34,724 --> 00:16:37,057 that experienced meditators while sitting 479 00:16:37,165 --> 00:16:39,817 show lower activity in a region called the posterior cingulate cortex 480 00:16:39,844 --> 00:16:41,338 than beginners do 481 00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,937 this is an important study 482 00:16:44,004 --> 00:16:45,937 but its limits need stating 483 00:16:46,364 --> 00:16:47,878 there were only twenty four subjects 484 00:16:48,285 --> 00:16:49,537 split evenly 485 00:16:50,165 --> 00:16:51,998 the authors wrote it in the paper themselves 486 00:16:52,325 --> 00:16:53,618 the sample is small 487 00:16:53,724 --> 00:16:56,458 and prone to inflated positive results 488 00:16:56,764 --> 00:16:58,118 and this is correlation 489 00:16:58,565 --> 00:16:59,578 not causation 490 00:16:59,964 --> 00:17:02,697 we cannot say meditation quieted that region 491 00:17:02,844 --> 00:17:03,358 only that 492 00:17:03,764 --> 00:17:05,978 meditation experience and that quiet 493 00:17:06,045 --> 00:17:07,578 showed up together 494 00:17:08,451 --> 00:17:09,252 the second 495 00:17:09,306 --> 00:17:13,038 is a UCLA study from twenty ten 496 00:17:13,665 --> 00:17:15,219 thirty dual income couples 497 00:17:15,705 --> 00:17:16,919 sixty people in total 498 00:17:17,026 --> 00:17:19,639 filmed their own homes on camera 499 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:20,838 narrating as they went 500 00:17:21,226 --> 00:17:23,719 the researchers did not measure how messy the homes actually were 501 00:17:23,905 --> 00:17:26,719 they analyzed the words these people used 502 00:17:27,226 --> 00:17:30,719 those who used words like cluttered and unfinished more often 503 00:17:30,865 --> 00:17:33,598 had flatter cortisol rhythms over the next three days 504 00:17:33,905 --> 00:17:37,399 a pattern associated with poorer health 505 00:17:37,865 --> 00:17:40,118 but this study has three limits too 506 00:17:40,145 --> 00:17:41,318 and I have to state them 507 00:17:41,746 --> 00:17:44,318 the effect showed up mainly in women 508 00:17:44,746 --> 00:17:47,038 what was measured is how you talk about your home 509 00:17:47,145 --> 00:17:49,239 not how cluttered the home objectively is 510 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,699 and again this is correlation 511 00:17:51,986 --> 00:17:52,959 not causation 512 00:17:53,729 --> 00:17:55,447 putting these two together 513 00:17:55,448 --> 00:17:57,381 the conclusion I reach is this 514 00:17:57,648 --> 00:17:58,442 physical less 515 00:17:58,809 --> 00:18:00,182 and psychological ease 516 00:18:00,289 --> 00:18:01,381 are two separate lines 517 00:18:01,809 --> 00:18:02,641 they can meet 518 00:18:02,968 --> 00:18:04,581 but they are not the same line 519 00:18:05,009 --> 00:18:05,841 and the order 520 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:08,702 is very likely the reverse of what we assume 521 00:18:08,968 --> 00:18:11,541 that storytelling machine going quiet 522 00:18:11,648 --> 00:18:13,048 is the result of practice 523 00:18:13,049 --> 00:18:14,061 not the cause 524 00:18:14,489 --> 00:18:15,641 empty out your room 525 00:18:15,968 --> 00:18:17,222 and it does not shut down 526 00:18:17,608 --> 00:18:19,861 it starts writing a new story 527 00:18:20,168 --> 00:18:21,162 and the story is called 528 00:18:21,569 --> 00:18:23,262 I am a minimalist 529 00:18:24,116 --> 00:18:25,229 so what should we actually do 530 00:18:25,757 --> 00:18:28,209 I want to go back to the three characters in danshari 531 00:18:28,437 --> 00:18:30,516 they came out of yoga 532 00:18:30,517 --> 00:18:32,769 refusing discarding and detaching 533 00:18:33,076 --> 00:18:33,830 that last one detaching 534 00:18:34,237 --> 00:18:36,489 originally means leaving your attachment to things 535 00:18:36,517 --> 00:18:37,610 not leaving things 536 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:38,709 the difference is tiny 537 00:18:38,957 --> 00:18:40,330 but it decides the direction 538 00:18:40,596 --> 00:18:42,969 what you have to deal with was never the cabinet 539 00:18:43,036 --> 00:18:44,650 it is the moment you open the cabinet 540 00:18:44,796 --> 00:18:46,130 and something moves inside you 541 00:18:47,143 --> 00:18:48,476 back to Jobs one last time 542 00:18:48,982 --> 00:18:50,595 what he took from Zen 543 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:52,756 may have been genuinely precious 544 00:18:52,942 --> 00:18:54,756 just not the empty house 545 00:18:54,982 --> 00:18:56,221 he had one ability 546 00:18:56,222 --> 00:18:59,115 to cut a hundred things down to one 547 00:18:59,462 --> 00:19:00,741 after he returned to Apple 548 00:19:00,742 --> 00:19:02,915 he killed most of the product lines 549 00:19:02,982 --> 00:19:04,195 and kept only four 550 00:19:04,303 --> 00:19:06,301 that ability is not called minimalism 551 00:19:06,303 --> 00:19:08,595 it is closer to what Buddhism calls samadhi 552 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:10,056 not owning little 553 00:19:10,343 --> 00:19:11,635 but attention that does not scatter 554 00:19:11,903 --> 00:19:14,915 a person can live in a room packed with things 555 00:19:14,982 --> 00:19:16,076 with a settled mind 556 00:19:16,303 --> 00:19:18,476 or live in an empty room 557 00:19:18,502 --> 00:19:20,036 with a storm inside 558 00:19:21,201 --> 00:19:23,934 so I want to leave you with one last question 559 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,154 if one day 560 00:19:25,521 --> 00:19:27,414 you really do empty out your house 561 00:19:27,521 --> 00:19:29,293 down to a hundred items 562 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,574 and the restlessness is still there 563 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,733 will you start to suspect 564 00:19:33,761 --> 00:19:36,434 that the problem was never in the house 565 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,753 and when that happens 566 00:19:38,161 --> 00:19:39,240 what you need to throw out 567 00:19:39,241 --> 00:19:40,813 is probably something else 568 00:19:41,885 --> 00:19:42,917 what do you think about this 569 00:19:43,524 --> 00:19:47,038 do you know someone with piles of stuff and a very quiet mind 570 00:19:47,484 --> 00:19:48,238 or the other way around 571 00:19:48,484 --> 00:19:49,803 an empty home 572 00:19:49,805 --> 00:19:51,238 and a mind that never stops running 573 00:19:51,764 --> 00:19:53,937 tell me in the comments 574 00:19:54,165 --> 00:19:54,838 I am Leo Wang 575 00:19:55,125 --> 00:19:55,962 and I will see you next time