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Krishnamurti said

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There is no observer at all

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Have you ever experienced this

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You are sitting there

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And suddenly anxiety arises

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Then a voice immediately says

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Do not be anxious

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Take a deep breath

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You need to control it

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You feel there is a you watching the anxiety

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A you trying to manage it

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But have you ever stopped

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To consider a strange question

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This you that is managing anxiety

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What is it made of

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Look at it closely

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Does it not carry tension too

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Hello

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Everyone

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I am Leo Wang

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Today I want to talk about someone

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With a single statement

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He cut through quantum physics

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Buddhist Yogacara from over a thousand years ago

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And what you are experiencing right now

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Every inner struggle

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His name was Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Born in 1895 in a small town in southern India

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He died in 1986

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His life itself was an extraordinary story

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As a child he was chosen by what was then

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The largest global esoteric group the Theosophical Society

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They proclaimed him the prophesied World Teacher

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Who would save all humanity

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An international organization called the Order of the Star was created for him

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With members across dozens of countries

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Tens of thousands waited for him to proclaim the truth

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Then he did something nobody expected

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In 1929

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He stood before three thousand followers

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And dissolved the Order of the Star himself

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He said one thing

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Truth is a pathless land

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No organization creed or ritual can take you there

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Imagine someone offering you the crown of an entire empire

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And you say

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No

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You have got it wrong

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There never was a king

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And no king is needed

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Then you place the crown on the ground

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Turn around and walk away

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For the next fifty seven years

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Until his death

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He did just one thing talk with people face to face

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He built no temples

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Accepted no disciples

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Founded no system

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Wrote no scriptures

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He simply kept returning

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From countless angles

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To the same question

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Where does human suffering really come from

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He spent his life asking it

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And the answer he finally offered

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Came down to one sentence

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The observer is the observed

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At first that sounds like a tongue twister

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What does it mean

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I see a tree

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How could I be the tree

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Hold on

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He was not talking about your relationship with a tree

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But your relationship with your own mind

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Let us return to the anxiety example

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You feel anxious

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Then you sense an I observing that anxiety

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Trying to deal with it

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Krishnamurti says

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Slow down

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Do not rush to deal with it

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First look at this I that wants to handle anxiety

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What exactly is it made of

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Look closely

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You will find it is made of your memories

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Your self image

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Your judgment that I should not be anxious

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Your fear of what happens if this continues

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And these things

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Memory judgment and fear

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Are they not themselves

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Another face of anxiety

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The so called observer

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Is not an independent judge outside anxiety

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It is anxiety wearing a coat that says I am in control

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It is like trying to pull yourself out of mud by your own hair

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The harder you try to observe suffering

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The more division you create

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Because the very act of observing

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Already carries the seeds of suffering

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You might say

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Is this not the Buddhist teaching of nonself

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They are related

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But not quite the same

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Nonself means there is no permanent independent subject

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Krishnamurti makes a more specific point

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He is not saying you do not exist

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He says the one you think is looking

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And the object being looked at

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Are two sides of the same thing

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Like making a surprised face in a mirror

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Then being startled by the surprised face reflected there

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The one frightening you and the one frightened

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Are the same face

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Even more fascinating

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In Buddhist Yogacara over a thousand years ago

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This insight had already been analyzed in precise detail

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Yogacara divides every act of cognition

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The perceiving aspect and the perceived aspect

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The perceiving aspect

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Is the function that knows

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Is the object that is known

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What is observed

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We take it for granted that these two are separate

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Like a photographer and the landscape being photographed

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One on this side of the lens

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But the central insight of Yogacara is precisely this

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Both aspects arise from the same consciousness

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There is no independent observer looking in from outside

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Nor an independent object waiting to be seen

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They are two sides of the same event

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You think you are photographing a landscape

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But the camera shutter and viewfinder

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And the landscape are all

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Props within the same great dream

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At its deepest Yogacara practice

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Points toward the dissolution of subject and object

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The subject

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Is the one who knows

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Means these apparent opposites dissolve together

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The subject does not swallow the object

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Nor does the object swallow the subject

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Instead you discover that the dividing line

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Splitting the world into I am looking

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And it is being looked at

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Was always a line you drew yourself

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The world is still there

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The illusion creating the division has disappeared

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Krishnamurti never systematically studied Yogacara

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Yet through pure inward observation

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He reached almost the same place

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More astonishing still

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A physicist arrived here from an entirely different direction

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One of the leading quantum theorists of the twentieth century

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As a young man at Princeton he had deep exchanges with Einstein

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He later independently developed the theory of implicate order

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He saw the world we perceive as an unfolded surface order

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Like the front of a painting

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Lies a deeper implicate order

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Everything is enfolded within everything else

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Observer and observed subject and object even mind and matter

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Bohm first read Krishnamurti in 1959

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And was deeply moved

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They first met in London in 1961

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Beginning a profound dialogue that lasted over twenty years

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With more than thirty formal conversations

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One was an Indian sage who rejected every system

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The other a quantum physicist writing equations on blackboards

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They would sit together

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And talk for hours

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Bohm later said

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He found a profound resonance in Krishnamurti

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What Krishnamurti reached through

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Pure inward awareness

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Was a direct insight

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That observer and observed

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Are inseparable

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This was precisely what in quantum physics

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Bohm had long been trying

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To express mathematically

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They started from completely different places

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Yet they met at the same crossroads

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As we discussed before

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Quantum mechanics has

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A central puzzle still not fully resolved

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The measurement problem

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A particle exists in a superposition of possible states before observation

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Does the wave function collapse

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And a definite outcome emerge

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What exactly triggers that collapse

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Keep tracing the question back

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And the observer cannot stand outside the observed system

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Late in his life the physicist Wheeler

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You are not outside the universe looking at it

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Is part of the universe unfolding itself

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The observer and the observed system

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Were never truly separate

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Now bring these three threads together

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The psychological insight of Krishnamurti

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The I observing suffering is itself suffering

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The philosophical analysis of Yogacara

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Perceiver and perceived are two aspects of one consciousness

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At the deepest realization subject and object dissolve

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The physical findings of quantum mechanics

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The observer cannot be independent of the observed system

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Three very different paths one beginning with inward observation

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One with Buddhist study and realization

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One with quantum theory across different centuries

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These three resonate

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They are not equivalent

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Krishnamurti describes direct awareness of psychological structure

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Yogacara analyzes the nature of consciousness through practice and realization

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Quantum mechanics mathematically describes microscopic physical processes

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Like three people standing on different mountains

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All seeing the same distant sea

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Though the rocks beneath their feet are entirely different

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This pattern of different entrances leading to the same exit

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Is what makes it so striking

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Because it suggests that the sea is real

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Whichever path you take

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You will arrive there

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What does this actually mean for everyday life

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Something very practical

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Next time you notice anger anxiety jealousy or fear

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Do not rush to activate the routine of observing your emotions

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Pause for a second

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Feel the you that is eager to observe those emotions

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Does it carry tension itself

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Does it carry judgment

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It carries the judgment that I should not be angry

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And the anxiety of what if I cannot control myself

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Then you are not observing anger

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You are using one kind

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To look at another kind with a bare face

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Krishnamurti says

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True observation

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Is observation without an observer

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He gave it a name

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Choiceless awareness

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Not choosing what to look at

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Not choosing how to look

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Not choosing an identity to look from

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The instant that division disappears

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Even for just one second

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A very strange sense of ease

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Not because you solved the problem

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That the maker of the problem and the problem itself

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Were always the same illusion

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The problem has not been solved

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This is why Krishnamurti never taught techniques throughout his life

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No breathing methods

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Because every method assumes someone who uses it

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And that person that observer is the root of the problem

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You cannot use the problem to solve the problem

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The only thing you can do

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Is see this clearly

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Not through effort

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But at the moment effort stops

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Clarity is already there

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Someone might ask

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How does this differ from mindfulness meditation

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The difference is considerable

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Mindfulness meditation often says

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You are the observer

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Your thoughts are the objects being observed

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Observe them without judgment

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That is already far better than living on autopilot

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But Krishnamurti would say

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Take one more step

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This nonjudgmental observer

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Look and see whether it carries judgment itself

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If you are honest enough

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You will discover

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A subtle sense of superiority I am observing

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I am above my thoughts

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And that sense of superiority

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Is itself another thought

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You think you have escaped the trap of thought

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But you have entered a more refined trap

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The Yogacara answer is even more unsparing it says

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Your so called observer

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Is merely the grasping of the seventh consciousness manas

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The sole function of manas is to seize part of the eighth consciousness alaya

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And take it to be I

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It continually manufactures a false subject

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Then uses that subject to examine everything

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You think you are practicing nonself

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But the I doing the practice

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Is precisely manas pretending to be selfless

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So

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The dissolution of subject and object is not a matter of technique

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It is a matter of seeing

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You do not need to destroy the observer

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You only need to see clearly

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That it and what it observes

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Are the same thing

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At the moment of seeing

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The division dissolves on its own

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Like realizing that the person chasing you in a mirror is yourself

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And you stop running

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This may be as far

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As language can take us

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Because language naturally follows

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A subject verb object structure

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It must divide the world into

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I see it

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But perhaps the truest workings of consciousness

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Lie in the cracks between words

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In that instant when subject and object

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Have not yet separated

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That fleeting instant

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Late in his life Bohm said something profound

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He said

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Thought creates the division between observer and observed

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Then tries to use thought to heal that division

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But it is like a dog

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Chasing its own tail

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The very act of chasing

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Creates the distance

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You can try this right now

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Close your eyes for three seconds

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Do nothing

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Just be there

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Then ask yourself during those three seconds

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Was there an observer

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Or was there

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Only a field of boundless awareness

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If you become quiet enough

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You may discover

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The observer appeared only when you began thinking I am aware

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Before that

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There was no one looking

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Only looking itself

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Let me leave you with a question

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The you listening to me right now

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If it too is merely

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A character constructed by thought

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Then

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What is it

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That is really listening

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You do not need to answer

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But if you become quiet

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Perhaps the answer will emerge on its own

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I am Leo Wang

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See you next time